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Ferguson riots

Posted: Thu Aug 14, 2014 8:24 am
by wub
Anyone paying attention to this? Police state in full effect...

Need to view image on this one - http://static4.businessinsider.com/imag ... -riots.jpg

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News stuff;

http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post ... ustration/
http://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-fer ... story.html
http://abcnews.go.com/US/violence-fergu ... d=24973522



And a video of a McDonalds getting stormed by police in riot gear;

Re: Ferguson riots

Posted: Thu Aug 14, 2014 9:38 am
by Sexual_Chocolate
saw this on rt today. like gaza in there.

Re: Ferguson riots

Posted: Thu Aug 14, 2014 9:39 am
by Riddles
They've apparently arrested (and subsequently released) journalists and there are some videos of the police using tear gas on Al Jeezera camera crews. Fucking crazy stuff. No fly zone, armoured vehicles and snipers etc. It's like a warzone...

Re: Ferguson riots

Posted: Thu Aug 14, 2014 9:39 am
by chekov
completely fucked up

video here of the police following protesters into a residential part and still firing tear gas etc
http://new.livestream.com/accounts/9035 ... s/59166942

was st louis pd known for being especially forceful before all this?

Re: Ferguson riots

Posted: Thu Aug 14, 2014 9:44 am
by Riddles

Re: Ferguson riots

Posted: Thu Aug 14, 2014 9:53 am
by Electric_Head
That's South Africa in a nutshell.

Re: Ferguson riots

Posted: Thu Aug 14, 2014 9:53 am
by wub
Riddles wrote:
Watch this and keep pressing 3

Re: Ferguson riots

Posted: Thu Aug 14, 2014 9:57 am
by Riddles
hahahah matt

Re: Ferguson riots

Posted: Thu Aug 14, 2014 10:02 am
by Electric_Head
lol

Re: Ferguson riots

Posted: Thu Aug 14, 2014 10:45 am
by wub
How America’s Police Became an Army: The 1033 Program
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As many have noted, Ferguson, Missouri, currently looks like a war zone. And its police—kitted out with Marine-issue camouflage and military-grade body armor, toting short-barreled assault rifles, and rolling around in armored vehicles—are indistinguishable from soldiers.

America has been quietly arming its police for battle since the early 1990s.

Faced with a bloated military and what it perceived as a worsening drug crisis, the 101st Congress in 1990 enacted the National Defense Authorization Act. Section 1208 of the NDAA allowed the Secretary of Defense to “transfer to Federal and State agencies personal property of the Department of Defense, including small arms and ammunition, that the Secretary determines is— (A) suitable for use by such agencies in counter-drug activities; and (B) excess to the needs of the Department of Defense.” It was called the 1208 Program. In 1996, Congress replaced Section 1208 with Section 1033.

The idea was that if the U.S. wanted its police to act like drug warriors, it should equip them like warriors, which it has—to the tune of around $4.3 billion in equipment, according to a report by the American Civil Liberties Union. The St. Louis County Police Department’s annual budget is around $160 million. By providing law enforcement agencies with surplus military equipment free of charge, the NDAA encourages police to employ military weapons and military tactics.

1033 procurements are not matters of public record. And the Defense Logistics Agency (DLA), which coordinates distribution of military surplus, refuses to reveal the names of agencies requesting “tactical” items, like assault rifles and MRAPs — for security reasons, a spokesperson for DLA told Newsweek via email. One can only trace “tactical” items as far the county of the requesting agency. In the case of Ferguson, that means St. Louis County.

St. Louis County law enforcement agencies have, through the 1033 Program, acquired the following “tactical” equipment, according to Mike O’Connell, Communications Director for the Missouri Department of Public Safety:
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Despite the fact that police in Ferguson have been photographed with a matte black vehicle which appears to be a “Bearcat” MRAP, O’Connell told Newsweek that no St. Louis County law enforcement agencies have acquired any MRAPs through the 1033 program.

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If the vehicle in the above Reuters photo is indeed an MRAP and not one of the nine “utility trucks” acquired by St. Louis County law enforcement, O’Connell said he does not know where it came from.

Police in Watertown, Connecticut, (population 22,514) recently acquired a mine-resistant, ambush-protected (MRAP) vehicle (sticker price: $733,000), designed to protect soldiers from roadside bombs, for $2,800. There has never been a landmine reported in Watertown, Connecticut.

Police in small towns in Michigan and Indiana have used the 1033 Program to acquire “MRAP armored troop carriers, night-vision rifle scopes, camouflage fatigues, Humvees and dozens of M16 automatic rifles,” the South Bend Tribune reported.

And police in Bloomington, Georgia, (population: 2,713) acquired four grenade launchers through the program, The Atlanta Journal-Constitution reported.

Given the proliferation of military weapons and military training among America’s police departments, the use of military force and military tactics is not surprising. When your only tool is a hammer, after all, every problem looks like a nail.

Re: Ferguson riots

Posted: Thu Aug 14, 2014 10:22 pm
by bennyfroobs
ye been following this

pretty insane

USA is fully 1984 (or izan germany, or soviet russia) right now

no turning back from this shit imo

Re: Ferguson riots

Posted: Thu Aug 14, 2014 11:55 pm
by Sexual_Chocolate
Electric_Head wrote:That's South Africa in a nutshell.
serious or...?

Re: Ferguson riots

Posted: Fri Aug 15, 2014 12:58 am
by test_recordings
Well overblown response. Sign of the times though, this shit is probably going to be more commonplace because no-one in government is condemning them

Re: Ferguson riots

Posted: Fri Aug 15, 2014 1:14 am
by chekov
terrible coverage by bbc as expected, rioting emphasised over police brutality and warzone conditions
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-28798951

really crappy photos chosen too

i swear bbc hasn't always been this shit

Re: Ferguson riots

Posted: Fri Aug 15, 2014 7:05 am
by nowaysj
bennyfroobs wrote:no turning back from this shit imo
War has already begun.


Don't worry, though, benny, you get to be in The War too. :Q:

Re: Ferguson riots

Posted: Fri Aug 15, 2014 9:42 am
by kidshuffle
test recordings wrote:Well overblown response. Sign of the times though, this shit is probably going to be more commonplace because no-one in government is condemning them
How is this an overblown response? This is the third black person to die (that the masses know of) by the hand of the police in less than a month. The city already has a detailed history of distrust with their police department too.

Re: Ferguson riots

Posted: Fri Aug 15, 2014 9:45 am
by kidshuffle
Not to mention the fact that in the last two shootings, both police have not been identified, and both have used the George Zimmerman excuse aka "he was reaching for my gun"

Fuck outta here.

Re: Ferguson riots

Posted: Fri Aug 15, 2014 9:53 am
by DJoe
its interesting to see the same people (noone on here) calling the 2011 uk riots 'mindless looting' defending theses riots/ criticising the american government/police forces

Re: Ferguson riots

Posted: Fri Aug 15, 2014 11:40 am
by wilson
Well you know what they say; To a police department endowed with surplus military grade equipment, every problem is a potential warzone.

They do say that.

Re: Ferguson riots

Posted: Fri Aug 15, 2014 12:08 pm
by OGLemon
kidshuffle wrote:
test recordings wrote:Well overblown response. Sign of the times though, this shit is probably going to be more commonplace because no-one in government is condemning them
How is this an overblown response? This is the third black person to die (that the masses know of) by the hand of the police in less than a month. The city already has a detailed history of distrust with their police department too.
I think he meant that the response by the cops was overblown. A bit ambiguous though.