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STUDIO MICS...

Posted: Mon Oct 01, 2007 4:15 pm
by John Locke
...primarily 4 vocals...

...but also that could work 4 recording acoustic instruments...

...and (surprise surprise) that dont cos much...

...any1 got any recommendations?

Posted: Mon Oct 01, 2007 4:37 pm
by auan
Rode NT1-A

No idea on the price, but it's reasonable. Check eBay. And its a fucking classic. Like you say, primarily for vocals but excellent for acoustic instruments as well.

Posted: Mon Oct 01, 2007 5:30 pm
by FSTZ
Auan wrote:Rode NT1-A

No idea on the price, but it's reasonable. Check eBay. And its a fucking classic. Like you say, primarily for vocals but excellent for acoustic instruments as well.
yeah nice one

the Rode K2 has multiple polar patterns. quite a steal for under $500

Posted: Mon Oct 01, 2007 5:42 pm
by __________
rodes are the titties but are not cheap.

the Shure SM57 and SM58 are stadard. They can be used for micing most things and sound good. alot of vocalists use the 58 on stage because they are solid as fuck and sound aiiiight

SM 57 about 60 quid
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SM 58 about 70 quid
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Shure mics on turnkey: http://www.turnkey.co.uk/web/searchActi ... ring=shure

Posted: Mon Oct 01, 2007 7:21 pm
by auan
£10 Bag wrote:alot of vocalists use the 58 on stage because they are solid as fuck and sound aiiiight
I swear by the 58s when I'm doing the live ting. The mostly metal bands I engineer for like to get drunk and jump about on stage. The SM58 is probably the only mic in the world that sounds better the more abuse you give it. I've seen a guy duct tape the cable onto my 58 (yeah, MY 58, not the venue's like the rest of the gear) and swing it off the ground. The 58 just laughs and keeps recording. Awesome piece of kit. And cheap.

Posted: Mon Oct 01, 2007 7:55 pm
by Littlefoot
£10 Bag wrote:rodes are the titties but are not cheap.

the Shure SM57 and SM58 are stadard. They can be used for micing most things and sound good. alot of vocalists use the 58 on stage because they are solid as fuck and sound aiiiight

SM 57 about 60 quid
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SM 58 about 70 quid
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Shure mics on turnkey: http://www.turnkey.co.uk/web/searchActi ... ring=shure
generally sound wank on vocals in the studio

you can get decent condensers for not much more, they wont work on stage but youll get a much more intense sound recorded down.

SEMini for example.

Posted: Mon Oct 01, 2007 8:49 pm
by Sharmaji
don't like the rodes personally, always sound hyped and tinny to me in general-- except for the nt4, the drumset overhead mic, which sounds dark and tubby.

DO really like the audio-technica 4050.

don't hate the mxl v67, which is only like $100. not great on everyone but passable on most.

LOVE the sm58. not so much for chicks but for almost any male voice, it's more than useable. a good preamp makes a world of difference w/ this mic.

if you don't record vox that much and are on a super-tight budget, you'd probably be much better off renting a studio for $30/hr that's got decent gear, rather than buying what's affordable right now. save up for some real kit instead.

Posted: Mon Oct 01, 2007 8:57 pm
by John Locke
safe 4 all the responses. a wealth of info 4me to wade thru and wiegh up.

Not looking 4 live use tho. just studio. so durability isnt top of the list of priorities. just sound quality and price.

As 4 paying a studio while saving 4 proper kit: good advice, and its what i done till now, but these days i'd find it real useful 2have a decent mic on hand as and when i need.

thanks

Posted: Mon Oct 01, 2007 9:10 pm
by auan
I thought that, with the thread being 'studio mics' and all.

http://www.turnkey.co.uk/web/productAct ... ontext=WEB

Tenner more than your average SM58 brand new, can't say fairer than that.

***shameless plug***

My bird owns one. Check it out on her myspace. :D

Posted: Mon Oct 01, 2007 9:50 pm
by John Locke
I know YOU thought that, but someone else was putting a fair bit of emphasis on their recommended mics taking a regularly kicking from screaming metallers on stage

Posted: Mon Oct 01, 2007 10:50 pm
by __________
the shures are always a safe bet though. you can be sure that every studio, abbey road or some shabby shithole of a studio in cornwall, will have at least one sm57 or 58.
personally, i have a rode nta1 but no XLR lead :( everything acoustic that i've recorded recently for my tunes is through a set of shit headphones 8)
i've always found the quality of the rode to be fine, but in retrospect i wish i'd bought a usb mic because i don't use desks that frequently and i'm not gonna cry about losing a bit of sound quality for a shitload of convenience.


AKG, shure, rode, beyer dynamic, neumann, they're respectable companies that make good mics for different purposes.
there is nowt wrong with any of the mics mentioned here but you're probably best looking at some frequency response graphs and user reviews and deciding what would suit you the best
its a PICKLE!
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Posted: Mon Oct 01, 2007 11:35 pm
by fused_forces
SE2200a

:wink:

Posted: Tue Oct 02, 2007 12:26 am
by westernsynthetics
sm 58 with pre-amp...cheap, reliable and does the job

Posted: Tue Oct 02, 2007 12:27 am
by FSTZ
wow

I really cant believe someone posted the Shure 57 and 58 in a thread about studio mics

did you know the technology that went into those mics was developed in 1969 and hasnt been updated since?

sure they are the main stable of all live engineers and yeah you can record a guitar cab with em..

but man...

they are most certainly not studio mics

Posted: Tue Oct 02, 2007 4:33 am
by auan
Speaking of recording guitar cabs, I see that the 57 has started being included as a model in things like Guitar Rig and Amplitube. This is next to things like Neumanns, vintage AKGs, and I just think, why bother?

Posted: Tue Oct 02, 2007 5:00 am
by mosaic
If you are prepared to outlay some cash then my vote would go to The Amethyst by Violet microphones.

Check it here: http://www.violet-design.ee/index.php?o ... &Itemid=96

The majority of Violet mics are also really hot, more reviews here: http://www.osxrecording.com/Reviews-req ... id-29.html

Posted: Tue Oct 02, 2007 9:15 am
by chunkie
akg c1000 - solid, multi use and £90

http://www.dv247.com/invt/3272?gclid=CL ... EgodHhcsCA

all round mic

dont know if you heard of the One Giant Leap project a few years ago, these two guys went around the world recording all types of world music artists with THIS mic and a laptop.

if it can work for them..........

Posted: Tue Oct 02, 2007 3:16 pm
by misk
the blue bottle is dope. really creamy and smooth.

also if your on a budget, the mxl that someone mentioned here earlier is really great for the price. you cant beat it. Its not a 440 or anything but it definitely can hold it's own.

Posted: Tue Oct 02, 2007 4:08 pm
by drwurst
se z3300a very nice
its like the big ones (neumann akg etc)
but china build (very good quality though)
and ships for 500 euro...
dont know in pounds...
its the real deal for me

Posted: Tue Oct 02, 2007 6:32 pm
by Sharmaji
Auan wrote:Speaking of recording guitar cabs, I see that the 57 has started being included as a model in things like Guitar Rig and Amplitube. This is next to things like Neumanns, vintage AKGs, and I just think, why bother?
because you can get a 57 right up on the cabinet w/o worrying about damaging the mic, and it captures the energy and grit of a guitar sound much better than a condenser does.

often use large condensers, ala U87, a few feet back to get some room reverberation but for up close on the cabinet, it's almost always a 57. maybe a ribbon, like a royer if the studio's got 'em-- but that's about $1200 more than a 57.