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Good books on production

Posted: Sat Oct 06, 2007 9:14 am
by feasible_weasel
:D please provide whats providing ur providings

Posted: Sat Oct 06, 2007 9:43 am
by bkk_drs
close your web browser and start experiment with software, not books. at your point of computer music knowledge (based on what i've read on this forum), that's the only thing that will help you. books will come later.

PS: you should listen to this advice, i had this feeling that God Himself was telling me what to reply on this thread.

Posted: Sat Oct 06, 2007 9:45 am
by feasible_weasel
bkk_drs wrote:close your web browser and start experiment with software, not books. at your point of computer music knowledge (based on what i've read on this forum), that's the only thing that will help you. books will come later.

PS: you should listen to this advice, i had this feeling that God Himself was telling me what to reply on this thread.
I def need to learn about what im using, because it just a bunch of things that make strange noises when i turn a twizzler.

Posted: Sat Oct 06, 2007 9:54 am
by bkk_drs
chose a host sequencer and STICK WITH IT. make a basic tune: one beat (done by yourself, not sample), one bassline (with a synth) and one sample. once you've done that, you'll start to have to have the right questions. BTW, best books are your softwares manuals. NI manuals for example, are very informative if you take the time to read them carefully.

start from the beginning.

Posted: Sat Oct 06, 2007 9:58 am
by feasible_weasel
bkk_drs wrote:chose a host sequencer and STICK WITH IT. make a basic tune: one beat (done by yourself, not sample), one bassline (with a synth) and one sample. once you've done that, you'll start to have to have the right questions. BTW, best books are your softwares manuals. NI manuals for example, are very informative if you take the time to read them carefully.

start from the beginning.
defo....basics and read about the programs functions :)

Posted: Sat Oct 06, 2007 2:14 pm
by djake
get a program and click all the buttons n find out wot they do :D

Posted: Sat Oct 06, 2007 2:56 pm
by daft cunt
Your software manuals will teach you more than just which knob does what.

Posted: Sat Oct 06, 2007 4:20 pm
by twatty vagitis
fuk manuals and books m8, there good for more advanced things but for basics, stick to vids.

most sites have vids on their products now days, and you can get tutorial vid dvds for most software, money better spent imo. then if you need to know summin specific jump on google

Posted: Sat Oct 06, 2007 4:46 pm
by roqqert
buy software and vst's. youll appriciate it the software much more so youll go make more own synths and you wont download a sea of vst's anymore hunting for presets..

Posted: Sat Oct 06, 2007 4:47 pm
by two oh one
Learn about composition and learn by doing again and again. Get feedback from people you can trust to tell the truth and don't take everything to heart You get a lot of conflicting info about the 'art' of it because everybody has different tastes there.

Get that down, then production will come naturally as you go, mister Weezil.

Posted: Sat Oct 06, 2007 4:58 pm
by slothrop
Obv there's no substitute for practice, experience, trial and error and so on. OTOH, understanding a bit of what's going on never hurt anyone. In which spirit:
How To Make A Noise decent book, downloadable for free, covers a lot of stuff.
Sound on Sound's Synth Secrets articles in reverse order owing to the search mechanism. Very deep, very interesting, probably more in depth than you need at the moment.
KvR Tutorials. Some of these might be useful, eg, 'The Basics of Subtractive Synthesis'. The Wiki there is pretty good for basic definitions, too.

Posted: Sat Oct 06, 2007 5:42 pm
by feasible_weasel
Slothrop wrote:Obv there's no substitute for practice, experience, trial and error and so on. OTOH, understanding a bit of what's going on never hurt anyone. In which spirit:
How To Make A Noise decent book, downloadable for free, covers a lot of stuff.
Sound on Sound's Synth Secrets articles in reverse order owing to the search mechanism. Very deep, very interesting, probably more in depth than you need at the moment.
KvR Tutorials. Some of these might be useful, eg, 'The Basics of Subtractive Synthesis'. The Wiki there is pretty good for basic definitions, too.
nice 8)

Posted: Sat Oct 06, 2007 5:45 pm
by feasible_weasel
two oh one wrote:Learn about composition and learn by doing again and again. Get feedback from people you can trust to tell the truth and don't take everything to heart You get a lot of conflicting info about the 'art' of it because everybody has different tastes there.

Get that down, then production will come naturally as you go, mister Weezil.
def down to composing, i luckily have an ear for what sounds good :D
yeh everybody has their own opinions

Posted: Sat Oct 06, 2007 5:56 pm
by feasible_weasel
Roqqert wrote:buy software and vst's. youll appriciate it the software much more so youll go make more own synths and you wont download a sea of vst's anymore hunting for presets..
make own synths :o

Posted: Sat Oct 06, 2007 5:59 pm
by feasible_weasel
to the other 3 people
im no good at looking and turning and hoping
im a deep learner i have to know what makes something work :D

Posted: Sat Oct 06, 2007 6:00 pm
by Littlefoot
bkk_drs wrote:close your web browser.
in general.

Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2007 10:22 am
by barryhercules
feasible_weasel wrote:to the other 3 people
im no good at looking and turning and hoping
im a deep learner i have to know what makes something work :D
i'm with you on this one mr weasel... the 'suck it and see' approach dont work for me, i like a good read... plus i can read about it on the way to work on a morning while sat on the bus, have a good think about shit during the day and when i get home i get a lot more out of my experimentation. its really useful to know how a real studio works too. nowt wrong with reading up on a bit of theory.... theres loads of books on amazon if you do a search on 'recording techniques'.... and read sound on sound mag too every now and again... and obviously like th other guys said, keep fuckin around too.

Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2007 10:24 am
by feasible_weasel
barryhercules wrote:
feasible_weasel wrote:to the other 3 people
im no good at looking and turning and hoping
im a deep learner i have to know what makes something work :D
i'm with you on this one mr weasel... the 'suck it and see' approach dont work for me, i like a good read... plus i can read about it on the way to work on a morning while sat on the bus, have a good think about shit during the day and when i get home i get a lot more out of my experimentation. its really useful to know how a real studio works too. nowt wrong with reading up on a bit of theory.... theres loads of books on amazon if you do a search on 'recording techniques'.... and read sound on sound mag too every now and again... and obviously like th other guys said, keep fuckin around too.
indeed 8) 8)

Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2007 10:46 am
by chunkie
for eqs etc the sound on sound series of 'Basic...' written by paul white (chief editor at sound on sound) are good

people will probably rat on em cos they're tooo basic or whatnot, but fact is getting a good grounding on eq for example for 5 quid goes down well with me - then build up from the foundations by experimenting

i'm with you on the reading -
way too many folk have got really powerful software but because of the lack of reading manuals and books etc, they're only using relatively basic functions

Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2007 10:52 am
by feasible_weasel
Chunkie wrote:for eqs etc the sound on sound series of 'Basic...' written by paul white (chief editor at sound on sound) are good

people will probably rat on em cos they're tooo basic or whatnot, but fact is getting a good grounding on eq for example for 5 quid goes down well with me - then build up from the foundations by experimenting

i'm with you on the reading -
way too many folk have got really powerful software but because of the lack of reading manuals and books etc, they're only using relatively basic functions
i will look for that :D
edit:
only £1.30 on amazon 8)