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Sound Insulation
Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2007 3:36 pm
by thomas
Moved into this house with extreamly thin walls, mainly the celing. Even playing at (what i consider) a low level the guy upstairs can feel the bass and complains alot, which i understand.
I remember hearing about egg cartons being used as a simple and cheap option, but im unsure about how easily avaliable they are, and how effective they are if i coverd my roof in them?
Also, foam was discussed by me and him but i have no idea what i should be looking for with this. Ive looked on sound proofing sites but they all go into too much detail and are more long term options. (I wont be in the house longer than a year) I cant really tear the plaster off and install expensive foam insulation etc etc
If anyones got any links to places dealing with this, or personal experiense im desperate to reduce the noise and enjoy music again.
Ta in advance
Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2007 3:44 pm
by thomas
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Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2007 3:47 pm
by chunkie
theres quite a few sites who sell acoustic treatment (google-it)
i'd call a few companies up and ask for advice - then you get a broad range of solutions and compare the costs etc
also beware the sound waves reflecting off your walls may bounce to the ceiling and so some sort of solution on the walls could help too
Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2007 3:52 pm
by thomas
Yeh was thinking about hanging a duvet behind the speakers and getting a rug...don't know how much effect this would have on the bass going through though?
Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2007 3:52 pm
by Sharmaji
kill your neighbor, hide his body in the river, and punch through the ceiling-- you get a duplex and no complaining about it.
Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2007 3:54 pm
by daft cunt
That sucks but this is sthg you're supposed to check before moving in...
Anyway, imo any room treatment is pointless if you're not the owner.
Know the schedules your neighbor isn't at home and use headphones the rest of the time...
Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2007 3:56 pm
by thomas
Daft tnuc wrote:That sucks but this is sthg you're supposed to check before moving in...
Anyway, imo any room treatment is pointless if you're not the owner.
Know the schedules your neighbor isn't at home and use headphones the rest of the time...
I'm not talking installing anything, just stapling foam or egg cartons onto the roof..
oh, and its hard to mix useing headphones only
Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2007 4:06 pm
by LEQ
Covering the ceiling won't help too much to be honest although you could just get osme old carpet and use that, you need to create a space between the ceiling and then another layer of something and fill it with dense fibre glass or something. In saying that though thats a lot of work involved...you could just use some batons an inch thick and then fill that with the fibre glass.
Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2007 4:11 pm
by daft cunt
Thomas wrote:Daft tnuc wrote:That sucks but this is sthg you're supposed to check before moving in...
Anyway, imo any room treatment is pointless if you're not the owner.
Know the schedules your neighbor isn't at home and use headphones the rest of the time...
I'm not talking installing anything, just stapling foam or egg cartons onto the roof..
oh, and its hard to mix useing headphones only
Erf... good luck then...
Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2007 4:19 pm
by thomas
LEQ wrote:you could just use some batons an inch thick and then fill that with the fibre glass.
How would that work? to be honest i dont even know what a baton is?!?!
Hasnt anyone here had to do this before, how do you deal with playing Dubstep in your house?
Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2007 4:20 pm
by two oh one
Unfortunately, the only real way to do it is a room within a room.
All the foam and egg boxes (ARGH!) you see on the walls of studios are actually more to do with sound absorption and diffusion and don't really do anything to sound proof the room.
Perhaps you could buy your neighbour a pair of earplugs and a bottle of nice wine?
Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2007 4:23 pm
by cryptic
Unfortunately, the only real way to do it is a room within a room.
Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2007 4:25 pm
by LEQ
Thomas wrote:LEQ wrote:you could just use some batons an inch thick and then fill that with the fibre glass.
How would that work? to be honest i dont even know what a baton is?!?!
Hasnt anyone here had to do this before, how do you deal with playing Dubstep in your house?
Pretty good forum here
http://www.avforums.com/forums/archive/ ... 91152.html
which is pretty helpful with things like this, might help. I'm rubbish at explaining things today, apologies.
Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2007 7:06 pm
by misk
if you got some stunt blankets (those thick blankets they use on movie sets for stunt guys) and cut them into strips about 3 feet wide, and hung them vertically from the ceiling, that would help with bass waves, or better yet pin them to the ceiling completely and allow them to drape down so theres a lot of space between them and the ceiling and do this multiple times... i dont know.. get creative and see what you can do.
learning his schedule is also a good thing...
Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2007 7:57 pm
by wizard
go to your mates or a practice room or something?
Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2007 9:11 pm
by thomas
wizard wrote:go to your mates or a practice room or something?
None of my mates have decks, let alone like Dubstep.
Thanks for the info, learning his weekly time table seems the best option. Hes mentiond not being in during the day, and not minding it before 6 most days. But today he confessed its annoying.
I was in his room while playing it today, and i swear its hardly any rumble on the floor but he must be picky.
Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2007 11:32 am
by thinking
two oh one wrote:Unfortunately, the only real way to do it is a room within a room.
All the foam and egg boxes (ARGH!) you see on the walls of studios are actually more to do with sound absorption and diffusion and don't really do anything to sound proof the room.
absolutely correct, there's nothing you can do about sound travelling liks this. Egg boxes, and even the expensive acoustic treatments you can buy are only ACOUSTIC TREATMENTS i.e. they help to deaden the sound so that you can trust your monitors.
A mate of mine who's a fulltime professional producer/engineer/DJ runs a high-spec studio in his house and has major problems with his neighbours. Even spending £10k on 1-inch thick underfloor damping didn't help matters.
You're better off chatting to your neighbour, having a mature attitude about it and seeing if there are certain times of the day/week when you
can make noise. Give them your phone numbers, tell them to call when you're too loud and you'll find them much more accepting of the situation and less likely to want to kill you.
Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2007 1:45 pm
by John Locke
move
Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2007 9:54 pm
by wizard
make him interested in wanting to learn, then hook him up with some gear
problemo solved
Posted: Sun Oct 21, 2007 12:08 pm
by thomas
^ Don't you just love sensible replies?
Thinking, thanks for that mate. At least i know i don't have to spend any money. Ive already taken to mixing when my housemate is out or not studying.