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"Rape"
Posted: Thu Jan 08, 2015 6:53 pm
by jaydot
so-with all the Ched Evan's shitstorm recently it got me thinking-what defines "rape" loosely involuntary penetration, right? Therefore how do you deem sex to be consensual without "verbal agreement" (because who verbally agrees to have sex< esp. when intoxicated??) What differs the Evans case to a lot in the media is she wasn't dragged off the street or physically assaulted in any way-I've tried to avoid the story as it was getting a bit grating-but I believe the young woman was having sex with Evans' friend and he joined in-imo that's not strictly cut and dry as rape in the sense that the media reports every week seemingly-so were Evans' actions tantamount to "rape" or something like aggravated sexual assault-how would you define rape? Should he be banished from the game?
Re: "Rape"
Posted: Thu Jan 08, 2015 6:56 pm
by Molzie
First
Re: "Rape"
Posted: Thu Jan 08, 2015 6:58 pm
by chekov
this can only go well
Re: "Rape"
Posted: Thu Jan 08, 2015 6:59 pm
by jaydot
Re: "Rape"
Posted: Thu Jan 08, 2015 7:00 pm
by jaydot
chekov wrote:this can only go well
Come on you're capable of a mature adult discussion right
Re: "Rape"
Posted: Thu Jan 08, 2015 7:00 pm
by mason666
i get all of my prospective sexual partners to sign a contract
Re: "Rape"
Posted: Thu Jan 08, 2015 7:05 pm
by RKM
hypothetically jayman, you're having sex with your girlfriend, ched evans enters the room and starts having sex with you
what are your thoughts here
Re: "Rape"
Posted: Thu Jan 08, 2015 7:10 pm
by chekov
jaydot wrote:chekov wrote:this can only go well
Come on you're capable of a mature adult discussion right
sorry been a long day
i haven't actually been following this story and can't see any description of what happened in that bbc article but i can't imagine it happened as innocently as you described it if he was sentenced to five years
Re: "Rape"
Posted: Thu Jan 08, 2015 7:14 pm
by SignalRecon
in California, having sex with a girl who says yes after she's had a single drink is rape.
Re: "Rape"
Posted: Thu Jan 08, 2015 7:17 pm
by chekov
SignalRecon wrote:in California, having sex with a girl who says yes after she's had a single drink is rape.
source?
Re: "Rape"
Posted: Thu Jan 08, 2015 7:17 pm
by soronery
who is chad evens?
Re: "Rape"
Posted: Thu Jan 08, 2015 7:17 pm
by jaydot
RKM wrote:hypothetically jayman, you're having sex with your girlfriend, ched evans enters the room and starts having sex with you
what are your thoughts here
Depends-if they'd met/conversed during that night/in the hotel room-if they're unacquainted I see why it's bad. Even so in the day and age of contentious rape cases and false rape claims always best to be sure
Re: "Rape"
Posted: Thu Jan 08, 2015 7:44 pm
by jrkhnds
posting in worst thread 2015
Re: "Rape"
Posted: Thu Jan 08, 2015 7:45 pm
by sigbowls
i herd a funny thing someone said yesterday. you can get raped without getting touched
Re: "Rape"
Posted: Thu Jan 08, 2015 7:51 pm
by topmo3
: _)
"Rape"
Re: "Rape"
Posted: Thu Jan 08, 2015 7:54 pm
by mIrReN
jaydot wrote:chekov wrote:this can only go well
Come on you're capable of a mature adult discussion right
yes we are, you on the other hand
Re: "Rape"
Posted: Thu Jan 08, 2015 8:38 pm
by hutyluty
wow lol i see things don't change on here- nice one jaydot
Re: "Rape"
Posted: Thu Jan 08, 2015 8:43 pm
by sigbowls
its a old member again, dza was here a week ago
Re: "Rape"
Posted: Thu Jan 08, 2015 9:35 pm
by nowaysj
jaydot wrote:so-with all the Ched Evan's shitstorm recently it got me thinking-what defines "rape" loosely involuntary penetration, right? Therefore how do you deem sex to be consensual without "verbal agreement" (because who verbally agrees to have sex< esp. when intoxicated??) What differs the Evans case to a lot in the media is she wasn't dragged off the street or physically assaulted in any way-I've tried to avoid the story as it was getting a bit grating-but I believe the young woman was having sex with Evans' friend and he joined in-imo that's not strictly cut and dry as rape in the sense that the media reports every week seemingly-so were Evans' actions tantamount to "rape" or something like aggravated sexual assault-how would you define rape? Should he be banished from the game?
This is the sum total of what I know about this Ched Evan, other than the paris shotting was a ff to protect his interests.
Thank you snh for keeping me in the looooop.
Re: "Rape"
Posted: Thu Jan 08, 2015 9:40 pm
by CreamLord
Ye