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Different Growl

Posted: Mon Jan 12, 2015 12:23 am
by Redoken
Well that's not the "sound like skrillex" growl but i've been listen to some kind of growl lately, you can hear it clearly in this track from Desembra at 1:02

https://soundcloud.com/officialdesembra ... e-download

It's not the usaul type of growl, it seems to be heavily processed with lot of filters and other stuff but I'm thinking about Serum. What about you people? :u:

Re: Different Growl

Posted: Mon Jan 12, 2015 7:31 pm
by XoraX
You mean that heavy Barely Alive kinda sound ?if yes I could give you some pointers, I am pretty close to the BA growl with fm8 (sorry for my english :D)

Re: Different Growl

Posted: Mon Jan 12, 2015 8:59 pm
by theorieskill
XoraX wrote:You mean that heavy Barely Alive kinda sound ?if yes I could give you some pointers, I am pretty close to the BA growl with fm8 (sorry for my english :D)
Please give tips!

Re: Different Growl

Posted: Tue Jan 13, 2015 12:32 am
by Redoken
Which one? I can hear billions of different sounds in their drops lmao

Re: Different Growl

Posted: Wed Jan 14, 2015 3:05 pm
by XoraX
I mean something like this ( http://de.swoopshare.com/file/072133cf1 ... lw&lang=de ) if yes I can give you some tipps :)

Re: Different Growl

Posted: Wed Jan 14, 2015 7:38 pm
by Redoken
yes it could be a great start! Fire your tips!
Do you know any helpful tut on the web for somthing like this?

Re: Different Growl

Posted: Wed Jan 14, 2015 8:21 pm
by XoraX
Well sorry I dont know any tutorials on the net for this kind of stuff I actually learnd a lot by reading the Official Growl thread (it takes a while to read trough it but it realy helps), for my growl the fm8 patch is realy easy the actuall "growl" sound comes from the fx.For the fm8 patch it´s just a PWM Ramp Mod and a Formant 10th wave feed in to a sine wave the Fx chain is :

Compression (OTT) -> Phaser -> EQ (highpass) -> EQ (Vowel) -> EQ (well just EQing the sound and make it fit) -> Reeverb

Oh and also a realy good tipp for Growls is to pitchbend the shit out of them because you need to look at the Growl like you would be talking we dont talk in the same pitch with every word we are saying the pitch changes and I think doing the same thing with growls is a realy helpful tipp (for me at least)

I realy hope it helps man :) (and again sorry my english is aweful :( )

Re: Different Growl

Posted: Wed Jan 14, 2015 8:44 pm
by Redoken
Thank you really appreciated!

Re: Different Growl

Posted: Thu Jan 15, 2015 4:19 am
by Labco
Yeh this dude pretty much nailed it

Pitch mods really important for sounds like this, even small ones like +/- 1 or 2 semitones
Phasers are good (because they basically formant eq it for you)
Eq it properly, spend time focusing on formants
Compress it
Slight distortion (Not over the top distortion, just subtle)
Lots of dudes nowadays running their growls through vocoders and setting the input as the modulator, can give off some cool effects

Mess with all that shit and you'll get some cool effects like this

http://www52.zippyshare.com/v/Q4ci9P9N/file.html

Re: Different Growl

Posted: Thu Jan 15, 2015 11:22 am
by bRRRz
Oh and mess around with following the pitch bend with the vowel EQ. Can get some pretty interesting results.

Re: Different Growl

Posted: Thu Jan 15, 2015 6:28 pm
by Ascenic
Labco wrote:Yeh this dude pretty much nailed it

Pitch mods really important for sounds like this, even small ones like +/- 1 or 2 semitones
Phasers are good (because they basically formant eq it for you)
Eq it properly, spend time focusing on formants
Compress it
Slight distortion (Not over the top distortion, just subtle)
Lots of dudes nowadays running their growls through vocoders and setting the input as the modulator, can give off some cool effects

Mess with all that shit and you'll get some cool effects like this

http://www52.zippyshare.com/v/Q4ci9P9N/file.html
Make a tutorial on that dude. That sound is simultaneously GOAT, OG, mint and money.

I know the basic process was described by the other guy and I'll be experimenting with it, but your timbre and everything is perfect. Very "Syndicate/SMNS". Also I read that post in your voice huehuehue.

Re: Different Growl

Posted: Thu Jan 15, 2015 7:00 pm
by Redoken
Labco wrote:Yeh this dude pretty much nailed it

Pitch mods really important for sounds like this, even small ones like +/- 1 or 2 semitones
Phasers are good (because they basically formant eq it for you)
Eq it properly, spend time focusing on formants
Compress it
Slight distortion (Not over the top distortion, just subtle)
Lots of dudes nowadays running their growls through vocoders and setting the input as the modulator, can give off some cool effects

Mess with all that shit and you'll get some cool effects like this

http://www52.zippyshare.com/v/Q4ci9P9N/file.html
Am I supposed to use "formant table" for eq it properly?

Re: Different Growl

Posted: Thu Jan 15, 2015 10:38 pm
by Redoken
Seems to be pretty decent as first attempt thank all of you guys really appreciated If you have other tips fire up then! :4:

http://www22.zippyshare.com/v/YrWx0t7G/file.html

Re: Different Growl

Posted: Sat Jan 17, 2015 12:08 pm
by XoraX
sounds cool man !

a tipp I forgot to write is you should have a Ohmicide (I always put it at the end of my FX chain) where you only distord the high end that gives the Growl more "crunchynes"/makes it ruffer.

I hope you know what I mean

oh and Labco dude thank you soooo much man I am a huge fan ! and getting feedback from you just made my day man thank you !

Re: Different Growl

Posted: Sat Jan 17, 2015 3:50 pm
by Redoken
Don't have Ohmicide :| Gonna try something else anyway thank you!!

Re: Different Growl

Posted: Sun Jan 18, 2015 3:29 am
by Banesy
I love you labco...for real dude. Your tutorials are top notch. I like that you explain why things work, not just...here copy this setting.

Re: Different Growl

Posted: Tue Jan 27, 2015 8:03 pm
by RATCUB
I came up with this
Soundcloud