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ask yourself this question

Posted: Fri Feb 06, 2015 6:19 pm
by soronery
'how would i make music if the internet didnt exist'

and if the answer is "i couldnt"

then i'm afraid i've got some bad news...

Re: ask yourself this question

Posted: Fri Feb 06, 2015 7:42 pm
by Hashkey
this is a problem of the younger people.
I learnt playing guitar with a small book and played a lot of years in a couple of bands.
No internet was needed.
Internet is a great resource to study and understand stuff that before was available only in college or by paying some good amount of money to people that had "secrets".
Other than that you can make music with everything you've got in your house.

Re: ask yourself this question

Posted: Fri Feb 06, 2015 8:48 pm
by Samuel_L_Damnson
I can make music without arms and legs I don't even need to breathe it just flows directly out my are hole and into your ears.

Re: ask yourself this question

Posted: Tue Feb 10, 2015 1:15 pm
by mason666
What's the bad news?

people can't do a lot of things without the Internet, what is your point?

Do you even produce anyway

Re: ask yourself this question

Posted: Tue Feb 10, 2015 2:35 pm
by Redderious
mason666 wrote:What's the bad news?

people can't do a lot of things without the Internet, what is your point?

Do you even produce anyway
Tbh, I don't see an issue with utilizing such a powerful resource when it's available. Some of production's technical aspects really call for researching material from multiple sources while you are just starting out.

As long as you don't find yourself completely dependent on it, and still take the time to experiment on your own, you can progress pretty damn fast.

Re: ask yourself this question

Posted: Tue Feb 10, 2015 2:45 pm
by soronery
Redderious wrote: I don't see an issue with utilizing such a powerful resource when it's available.
neither do i

Re: ask yourself this question

Posted: Tue Feb 10, 2015 2:51 pm
by hubb
we would all be stars in hairbands surely!

Re: ask yourself this question

Posted: Tue Feb 10, 2015 3:21 pm
by Redderious
soronery wrote:
Redderious wrote: I don't see an issue with utilizing such a powerful resource when it's available.
neither do i
What's the bad news then?

Making music is easy, yeah, but making quality is going to take some effort to research what you're doing. The internet is the best tool out there if you can take what you're looking at with a grain of salt.

Re: ask yourself this question

Posted: Tue Feb 10, 2015 3:26 pm
by exfox
can't really compress without the internet can you

Re: ask yourself this question

Posted: Tue Feb 10, 2015 3:28 pm
by soronery
Redderious wrote:
soronery wrote:
Redderious wrote: I don't see an issue with utilizing such a powerful resource when it's available.
neither do i
What's the bad news then?

Making music is easy, yeah, but making quality is going to take some effort to research what you're doing. The internet is the best tool out there if you can take what you're looking at with a grain of salt.
think youre getting confused

nowhere in my post did i say you shouldnt use the internet

Re: ask yourself this question

Posted: Tue Feb 10, 2015 3:56 pm
by Redderious
soronery wrote:
Redderious wrote:
soronery wrote:
Redderious wrote: I don't see an issue with utilizing such a powerful resource when it's available.
neither do i
What's the bad news then?

Making music is easy, yeah, but making quality is going to take some effort to research what you're doing. The internet is the best tool out there if you can take what you're looking at with a grain of salt.
think youre getting confused

nowhere in my post did i say you shouldnt use the internet
Yeah, I might be. What were you goin for?

Re: ask yourself this question

Posted: Tue Feb 10, 2015 4:04 pm
by soronery
lets approach the questio from a different angle

"if the internet wasnt there how would i solve this problem?"

Re: ask yourself this question

Posted: Tue Feb 10, 2015 4:42 pm
by fragments
1. If the internet didn't exist there would be no torrents and probably very little or difficult access to freeware--so that alone cuts out a massive amount of the "online music making" population.

2. If the internet didn't exist I think a lot of people probably wouldn't even start.
b. " " a lot more people would give up because lack of access to information in itself can be frustrating.

3. W/o the internet there would be no digital distribution so a lot would change--cost of software as well as the way we consume music (we'd still be on the radio/physical media model).

4. Even if the price difference between software and hardware were not affected, I think more people would have hybrid setups because I suspect there would be less people with no musical background suddenly deciding I'm going to be the next Burial/Skrillex.

If there were no internet I'd probably be making 90's sounding beats on an ESX and a Korg Triton et al. because that is what my buddy who got me into it used at the time. Used software a little bit, mostly as a multitrack recorder. Or not at all...

Re: ask yourself this question

Posted: Tue Feb 10, 2015 4:47 pm
by soronery
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Re: ask yourself this question

Posted: Tue Feb 10, 2015 4:57 pm
by hubb
there would probably be more midi


because midi was the bit being taught in music schools because of its affordability and most schools already having pcs. at least at the time where the net became common -ish..

Re: ask yourself this question

Posted: Tue Feb 10, 2015 6:17 pm
by _ronzlo_
I was just thinking about how not only the internet but computers in general make music more ephemeral in general - we don't have album covers that we go over religiously, our instruments are literally mathematical algorithms, and our most tangible expression of a lot of musical content usually comes to us from curators (DJs).

This can be interpreted a lot of ways; I'm trying not to view it in good/bad terms so much as a bigger historical context... How changes in music technology in the past presaged social changes. Don't have any conclusions so far.

Re: ask yourself this question

Posted: Tue Feb 10, 2015 6:34 pm
by ehbes
there'd be no dsf and I wouldn't have to put up with you plebs

Re: ask yourself this question

Posted: Tue Feb 10, 2015 9:53 pm
by Samuel_L_Damnson
If ehbes posts on DSF but no one reads his post, does he really exist? does dsf really exist?
does dubstep really exist

Re: ask yourself this question

Posted: Tue Feb 10, 2015 10:00 pm
by ehbes
confirmed, i created dubstep

Re: ask yourself this question

Posted: Tue Feb 10, 2015 11:08 pm
by fragments
ehbes wrote:there'd be no dsf and I wouldn't have to put up with you plebs
I love you too babe.