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same ere mate....tempest wrote:cut everything below 40hz ??? I know this topic was about DJ'ing..
but whats the consensus with cutting those real low freqs? i thought these freq's were vital for the big system to keep it real weighty
djake wrote:same ere mate....tempest wrote:cut everything below 40hz ??? I know this topic was about DJ'ing..
but whats the consensus with cutting those real low freqs? i thought these freq's were vital for the big system to keep it real weighty
Another generally accepted thought is that there really isn''t much below 40Hz that anyone wants to hear live. On a recording it may be a different story, but live you pretty much want to cut anything below 40Hz. This will do several things: it will reduce stage rumble, reduce that "flabby, booming" kick/bass sound, will increase headroom (which is the reserve power capability) in your power amplifiers (because now they won''t have to reproduce those power robbing low frequencies), and generally clean up the whole mix. If your amp, crossover or mixer has sub-sonic filters... use them! Those filters are the quickest way to cut down on those unwanted low frequencies below 40 Hz. Also, on midrange and treble instruments (vocals, horns, guitars, keys, etc.) use the channel low cut (if available). These vary from 75Hz to 100Hz and give you all of the above mentioned benefits without adversely affecting the sound. Now I know that some 5 & 6 string bass players and keyboard players will insist that there is desirable musical content below 40Hz. However, there are harmonics and overtones that still let you hear the low "B" being played on a 5 string bass, you just won''t hear the fundamental (approx. 30Hz). I think the trade-off (a clean, punchy mix) is worth it. You can decide for yourself.Part of getting the sound you want is knowing where an instrument lies in the frequency spectrum and part of it is just plain experimentation.
yea u may not be able to hear them but on a big system you could feel them.somejerk wrote:djake wrote:same ere mate....tempest wrote:cut everything below 40hz ??? I know this topic was about DJ'ing..
but whats the consensus with cutting those real low freqs? i thought these freq's were vital for the big system to keep it real weighty
you can't hear anything below 40hz. what's the point of it being there if you can't hear it?
also, my bad, i thought this was about production since...well...it's in the production area of the website.
kk i was just curious about it reallysomejerk wrote:40 to 60hz is the "good" part, IMO.
everything below 40hz eats up your headroom.
i dunno, maybe what i've been told is wrong, but i notice when i cut below 40hz, i am able to make the bass louder and it is more clear, less muddy. however i have read this time and time again from various tutorials and production forums, as well as from friends that (successfully) produce various forms of bass music.
to each his own really!
somejerk wrote:some quick text about below 40hz
http://www.hiphopproduction.com/?pageid ... eid=eq_101
Another generally accepted thought is that there really isn''t much below 40Hz that anyone wants to hear live. On a recording it may be a different story, but live you pretty much want to cut anything below 40Hz. This will do several things: it will reduce stage rumble, reduce that "flabby, booming" kick/bass sound, will increase headroom (which is the reserve power capability) in your power amplifiers (because now they won''t have to reproduce those power robbing low frequencies), and generally clean up the whole mix. If your amp, crossover or mixer has sub-sonic filters... use them! Those filters are the quickest way to cut down on those unwanted low frequencies below 40 Hz. Also, on midrange and treble instruments (vocals, horns, guitars, keys, etc.) use the channel low cut (if available). These vary from 75Hz to 100Hz and give you all of the above mentioned benefits without adversely affecting the sound. Now I know that some 5 & 6 string bass players and keyboard players will insist that there is desirable musical content below 40Hz. However, there are harmonics and overtones that still let you hear the low "B" being played on a 5 string bass, you just won''t hear the fundamental (approx. 30Hz). I think the trade-off (a clean, punchy mix) is worth it. You can decide for yourself.Part of getting the sound you want is knowing where an instrument lies in the frequency spectrum and part of it is just plain experimentation.
