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Massive Sync Death

Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2007 10:19 pm
by meckler
How do you/is it possible to automate sync'd LFO rates in Massive? I just can't seem to crack it.

Cheers.

Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2007 10:27 pm
by meckler
Forgot to add I'm new here so, hello.

Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2007 10:30 pm
by tempest
G'day matey welcome... As far as i know you can't do it.. we've discussed it here before i think...


The way i'd approach it maybe is to run 3 or 4 instances of massive with each set at 1/2, 1/4, 1/8, 1/12 etc whatever...

Good luck :)

Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2007 10:31 pm
by Sub Shifter
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Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2007 10:36 pm
by meckler
Ack, 4 instances of Massive? My PC dislikes running even one. If it's the only way I'll give it a go though. I already hate the freeze function...

Using Cubase SX.

Seems like a bit of a glaring omission from the plugin... even Reason can do it.

grrr...

Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2007 10:43 pm
by masstronaut
I haven't used Massive but you could try making lots of similar patches - just change the LFO rate and use program change messages to switch between them?

Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2007 10:55 pm
by tempest
meckler wrote:Ack, 4 instances of Massive? My PC dislikes running even one. If it's the only way I'll give it a go though. I already hate the freeze function...

Using Cubase SX.

Seems like a bit of a glaring omission from the plugin... even Reason can do it.

grrr...
heh, need some more RAM and a dual core mate :wink:

Yeah, i've read here somewhere that they are including it in a new version or something.. have to go suss it out on the native instruments site..

Posted: Fri Dec 07, 2007 12:23 am
by meckler
masstronaut wrote:I haven't used Massive but you could try making lots of similar patches - just change the LFO rate and use program change messages to switch between them?
Just for the record, I don't think this is possible - all the programs int the list say [disabled]. The synth does have two filters and three LFOs though, so you can engineer two different sync rates. wobbble wobbble and wble wble wble wble for instance.

thanks anyway guys.

easy.

Posted: Fri Dec 07, 2007 12:32 am
by press
one way would be to resample massive with the filter frequency all the way up and no lfo so you get the full sound then load that in an automatable sampler and do the lfo/filtering in there.

Posted: Fri Dec 07, 2007 12:45 am
by masstronaut
meckler wrote:
masstronaut wrote:I haven't used Massive but you could try making lots of similar patches - just change the LFO rate and use program change messages to switch between them?
Just for the record, I don't think this is possible - all the programs int the list say [disabled]. The synth does have two filters and three LFOs though, so you can engineer two different sync rates. wobbble wobbble and wble wble wble wble for instance.

thanks anyway guys.

easy.
Really, you can't change patches? OK. - I think Press's method above would work well anyway.

Posted: Fri Dec 07, 2007 12:59 am
by whineo
Press wrote:one way would be to resample massive with the filter frequency all the way up and no lfo so you get the full sound then load that in an automatable sampler and do the lfo/filtering in there.
assimilate this post meckler

4 instances of Massive at once is a silly idea even if you are freezing them.

Posted: Fri Dec 07, 2007 1:12 am
by masstronaut
4 instances of Massive at once is a silly idea even if you are freezing them.
And I wonder why people go on about having to get quad core cpus with 4 gigs of RAM. :roll:

:wink:

Posted: Fri Dec 07, 2007 2:04 am
by auan
Use the performer, not the LFO. It's already synced and you can do clever things by using more than one performer source and/or the performance x-fade slider.

Posted: Sun Dec 09, 2007 6:39 pm
by thesynthesist
Auan wrote:Use the performer, not the LFO. It's already synced and you can do clever things by using more than one performer source and/or the performance x-fade slider.
We're working on getting Native to add the automated synced LFO feature, but in the meantime, there are a ton of ways around it.

The performer is the most wide open, but then with the routing you can really go buck wild. You just have to be creative.

3-4 instances of massive is absurd, unless you have more ram than is reasonably affordable.

Posted: Sun Dec 09, 2007 8:48 pm
by tempest
Can I just ask why 3-4 instances of Massive is absurd?

I mean, my PC isn't a beast, but it handles this alright....