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Frequencies
Posted: Mon May 08, 2006 2:45 pm
by bruno belluomini
Which frequencies you're working for Hi Hat, Kick Drum and Bass?
Posted: Mon May 08, 2006 2:46 pm
by forensix (mcr)
depends on teh drums and where my bass/synths are gonna sit there are no real defined frequencies that i use
except<100Hz for the sub
Posted: Mon May 08, 2006 2:54 pm
by jera
depends on drums like forensix said but as a general rule i usually boost round 250Hz on kick drum to give it a nice punch n add sum roundness
Posted: Mon May 08, 2006 2:55 pm
by forensix (mcr)
or you could layer a 808 kick underneath does the same job as i tend not to like additive eqing i'd much rather take away than add
Posted: Mon May 08, 2006 4:48 pm
by shonky
With the kick drum, either high pass or low cut at somewhere between 90Khz to 120Hz so as to allow space for the bass. I think that with kicks you also want some upper presence so you may also want to boost at 1.8KHz and 3.6kHz to get the beater noise (if it's a really low sine wave sort of kick, 808 or something, you probably won't gain anything from this) and this should help it cut through in the mix.
With snares you'll probably want to do the same at about 400-600hz to remove any lower pitches in the sample, but to keep the knock sound that gives it body. Not too sure if this is how to do it, but found it works for me that if you look at the eq in octaves (i.e. where the pitch doubles, say 1.8kHz-3.6kHz) this should help add the octaves above the fundamental pitch, which helps the drum sound more tuned than if you added odd harmonics to the sound.
With cymbals/hi-hats high-pass at 2500 or above and then high-shelve the top end down a bit if it sounds too fizzy.
Computer Music magazine have a frequency chart on the DVD they give away each month, which should help indicate what goes where. As said before, it's better to cut than add when eq-ing.
Posted: Sun May 14, 2006 6:20 pm
by jahtao
It is common to remove flab from a real kick drum at 200-400Hz using a narrow cut (hi Q, parametric). This zone is flab generally but not always. For me 110-150 provides hardness, 60-100 is lower and softer.
Snares. A lot of variety. I try to keep my eye on 4-6kHz not 1-2.5kHz, but not always.
Cymbals traditionally 6kHz and up. Parametric boost at 6.5kHZ? Shelf at 12kHz? Older people can't hear above 14kHz, 18kHz is for kids. We call this air or sparkle.
General rules: There is no magic frequency. There are no rules. In fact a decent amout of the 'wrong' fequencies is vital to even the cheanest sounding records. Every case is different and should be treated accordingly. There are no magic plugins or outboard gear.
Posted: Sun May 14, 2006 6:26 pm
by ramadanman
take away rather than add
Posted: Sun May 14, 2006 7:02 pm
by docwra
ramadanman wrote:take away rather than add
So true, adding frequencies can lead into situations such as muddiness, which you dont want. So it's always best to cut frequencies.
Posted: Mon May 15, 2006 9:41 am
by dj $hy
Bruno I have a Freq sheet with magic freq's if you want it? Very helpfull as it states the best Freq's for Bass, Strings, Kicks and so on.
MSN me and I'll send it ova.
msn me on
patrick_hughes79@hotmail.com
Peace
Posted: Mon May 15, 2006 12:06 pm
by bruno belluomini
Great $hy! Already sent an email!