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Vocals are very powerful, cant deny that.
but i feel that adding vocals like a real song, could push the scene into appealing to corporates trying to have kylies/madonna/riahanna's using this scene to be cool.
and also that mc's can quickly grow big headed and too much hype, can basically end a genres club life.

feasible_weasel wrote:adding vocals like a real song, could push the scene into appealing to corporates trying to have kylies/madonna/riahanna's using this scene to be cool.

so basically you fear that dubstep will become mainstream? so what? mainstream doesn't always equals bad music. and it is opportunity to bring more people to the scene. more money = more exposure = more people. and if mainstream isn't what suits you there is alway underground. i mean do what you like and feel. music has no limitations. if you feel like adding vocals do it. if not don't. simple as that. there is no real and fake music. people who think like that are assholes with no life.

just my 2 cents

That's like saying 'do you like keyboards' in a tune.

Sometimes they sound shit, other times they sound good.

pacman wrote:so basically you fear that dubstep will become mainstream? so what? mainstream doesn't always equals bad music. and it is opportunity to bring more people to the scene. more money = more exposure = more people. and if mainstream isn't what suits you there is alway underground. i mean do what you like and feel. music has no limitations. if you feel like adding vocals do it. if not don't. simple as that. there is no real and fake music. people who think like that are assholes with no life.

just my 2 cents

Its inevitable that this music will become mainsteam eventually. I agree with you that it isnt a problem at all. If it leads to people getting bored with the sound and developing new things then that can only be a good thing.

We should form a beurocratic dubstep steering committee, yes?

I can think of a few items on the agenda for our first anual general meeting...

- vote on the proposed banning wobble act

- proposed of moving minimal tech infulueced dubstep into it's own genre with it's own sub-comittee

- could have a special dubstep mainstreem asimilation and climatization framework

this would also call for some kind of emergency contingency plan for the abondenment of dubstep for a new genre if things get too hairy. We should have a planning group already working on designing the new emergency genre and getting it ready to launch into the underground as soon as we quit dubstep. I will get the stats depertment onto working out the most ideal BPM.

never been a big fan of mc's, but of course there are some positive exceptions.. 'skeng' is a good example where mcing definitely works.

female vocals can be brilliant of course, the problem is when producers start using them too much.. like always dnb as an example what can happen.
I wanna see more clouds - 'under the dancing feet' type of stuff... I think vocals would work well with some silkie or quest stuff as well... also I love 'tears' by hijak, but that's sampled, innit?

fliPPo wrote: We should have a planning group already working on designing the new emergency genre and getting it ready to launch into the underground as soon as we quit dubstep. I will get the stats depertment onto working out the most ideal BPM.

Take influence from Hip Hop and just have an Underground Dubstep, think of the fun we can have selecting who goes where and endless debates about the actualy difference between the two.

I'm all for vocals, worked fine in garage (well mostly). MC's could be good as long as they've got something interesting to say, if it's just the standard bragging shite then no.

I went to a night in Bristol recently, I won't say which , don't want to stir shit, not why I'm posting... but there was a couple of MC's on through 90% of the night and it killed it for me... I felt like I was at Slammin Vinyl DnB rave or something...

Fuck that, thats not the Dubstep I know..

Like a friend said to me in the dance once... "Why are their words on my Dubstep? "

Skream "Not over yet" remix

fliPPo wrote:We should form a beurocratic dubstep steering committee, yes?

No.

im working on a few vocal tunes to push things mainstream, jus so the scene gets the respect and admiration it deserves tho!!!

Would like to see a few more experiments with hip hop mc's
in the vein of that killer Kode 9 and MF Doom tune.

Roots Manuva and Mala please.

contraband wrote:I went to a night in Bristol recently, I won't say which , don't want to stir shit, not why I'm posting... but there was a couple of MC's on through 90% of the night and it killed it for me...

Same happened to me on the weekend... can't stand those MC's that just shout 'wheres the smokers' and 'DJ so-and-so in the building' over and over again.

I love it when a good MC throws down some rhymes, during the peak of a tune... and a few words during intros, to build up the crowd. But NOT just shouting random things constantly through the set...

Vocals can be good as long as it isn't just some random dancehall vocal slapped over any old wobble tune

^^^
ay-men

vocal tunes are definately gonna take things forward, if they're done well. juakali is someone to watch closely i reckon.

Corpsey wrote:Vocals can be good as long as it isn't just some random dancehall vocal slapped over any old wobble tune

love a lot of the tunes with female vocals over the top. dead 2 me and lilyliver by darkstar especially are amazing

think that vocal snippets suit dubstep really well too. most obvious example is burial but tunes like that one on the headhunter EP (spyro?), new rogue state tunes, phonebox by sully off the top my head but sure there's lots more

edit- how could i forget empty houses by parson? been a percy for getting on for a year now

talking Vocal snips how about 'ancient memories'... so subtle and adds so much with so little