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DANCEHALL VOCODERS eg MOVADO, MUNGA, TPAIN etc

Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2008 7:49 pm
by bluntnwuk
can anyone tell me what vocoder/autotune device would be suitable to get that movado/busy signal/munga-type sound? i have tried a few hardware synths (like microkorg and ms2000) but i feel they are either too old skool or i'm doing something wrong...i have heard that autotune software works but dont know enough about it to spend my hard earned cash on something that isn't going to work...cheers

Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2008 8:40 pm
by habitualbeatscamp
Anteres (sp?) Auto Tune...

Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2008 9:20 pm
by FSTZ
dont use autotune to vocode

not quite sure about the "dancehall" vocoder sound you are looking for, but I really like the Akai DC vocoder

it has a plush sound and graphic eq to emphasize certain frequencies

Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2008 10:58 pm
by habitualbeatscamp
The only reason I mentioned autotune was because I know that alot of those dancehall cats are starting to use it as a vocoder now. Along with T-Stain and some of those RnB fools.

(He mentioned T-Stain in the thread title)

Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2008 11:18 pm
by apeks
I was at a party the other day and the DJs were playing dancehall/ragga, i couldn't believe how much of that Cher/Akon autotune effect was on the vocals of nearly all the tunes! :o

Sounds absolutely TERRIBLE imo.

Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2008 11:29 pm
by thesynthesist
agreed, Akon literally makes me sick to my stomach.

Vocode in taste my friend, in taste.

Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2008 11:10 am
by bluntnwuk
LOOOL!!! hahah yeah t-pain sucks balls...
just wanted to get that movado style effect...each to their own eh?

Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2008 2:16 pm
by Sharmaji
it was overdone in bhangra 5 years ago and i was so happy that it never made its way to dancehall.

over the last year or so-- i'm a lot less happy.

yeah it's just autotune, slapped on the vocal, working fast and hard.

FWIW the cher effect, while similar, was an actual, old-school, analog vocoding effect. google it, the info's out there.

Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2008 3:00 pm
by crash fistfight
Found this on the Sound on Sound site
Cher's 'Believe' (Dec 1998) was the first commercial recording to feature the audible side-effects of Antares Auto-tune software used as a deliberate creative effect. The (now) highly recognisable tonal mangling occurs when the pitch correction speed is set too fast for the audio that it is processing and it became one of the most over-used production effects of the following years.

In February 1999, when this Sound On Sound article was published, the producers of this recording were apparently so keen to maintain their 'trade secret' process that they were willing to attribute the effect to the (then) recently-released Digitech Talker vocoder pedal. As most people are now all-too familiar with the 'Cher effect', as it became known, we have maintained the article in its original form as an interesting historical footnote.
Must be antares then?

Posted: Thu Jun 11, 2009 7:17 pm
by bluntnwuk
Cheers you lot! Got antares autotune and it's working exactly how i wanted...prob gonna use it sparingly tho cos it's SUPER cheesy!

+ don't ever want to be compared to T-PAIN

Posted: Thu Jun 25, 2009 6:52 pm
by rubadub
Yes, in the right context it can be beautiful. See new james blake tunes, woods by bon iver, from day by double s. And I do think it suits some dancehall, is getting a bit overused though.