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how many units does the average dubstep plate sell?

Posted: Tue May 23, 2006 10:25 am
by hate recordings
just wondering, like the subject says, how many units does the average dubstep plate sell in the shops?

any artists/label owners in here know? i'm curious.

and by average, im not talking stuff like planet mu/rephlex, talkin smaller DIY dubstep labels.

Posted: Tue May 23, 2006 10:30 am
by seckle
i've heard one thousand for big big tunes. i've also heard smaller tunes doing nothing near that.
toasty "knowledge" and skream "request line" are probably well over 1000. i'm guessing though.

Posted: Tue May 23, 2006 10:45 am
by scoz
I wouldn't be surprised if many releases only had a run of 300 or so, and probably then don't sell out either. That seems to be the amount that people I know put out, albeit in a different genre.

Posted: Tue May 23, 2006 10:47 am
by paulie
Sales have improved dramatically in the last 6 months.

Posted: Tue May 23, 2006 11:26 am
by tronman
i reckon an artist like skream could blatantly sell 1000 copies in a couple weeks

Posted: Tue May 23, 2006 11:28 am
by fubar

Posted: Tue May 23, 2006 12:07 pm
by baz
planet mu (and probably rephlex) don't press more records per release than your standard indie label, they're not big labels making mega bucks.

Posted: Tue May 23, 2006 12:36 pm
by mshadetek
The minimum pressing that's affordable is usually 500 12"s, so that's where most people start. I'd imagine in the past 6 mos the big dubstep tunes have gotten into the 1000-2000 per 12" range, which is quite good for vinyl. Most 12"s sell their 500 and that's it.

Posted: Tue May 23, 2006 12:48 pm
by human?
word, yo, 500 is standard underground press....


thing is, tune takes off, repress the next 500 costs like half what the original press costs, cause youve already done your mixdown, mastering, laquers & stampers....

i honestly have no idea what dubstep is selling right now (although i do know for sure aint no stores in NYC that can stay sufficiantly stocked due to demand) but north american ragga jungle things sell 500 - 1000 with decent distro & outlets like redeye, juno etc.....

Posted: Tue May 23, 2006 1:18 pm
by paulie
mshadetek wrote:The minimum pressing that's affordable is usually 500 12"s, so that's where most people start. I'd imagine in the past 6 mos the big dubstep tunes have gotten into the 1000-2000 per 12" range, which is quite good for vinyl. Most 12"s sell their 500 and that's it.
That's accurate.

Posted: Tue May 23, 2006 3:34 pm
by spaceboy
it's not a money making game unfortunately, if your going into underground music to become rich, then change the aim before getting too deep into it.

Posted: Tue May 23, 2006 5:16 pm
by dj mate
seckle wrote:i've heard one thousand for big big tunes. i've also heard smaller tunes doing nothing near that.
toasty "knowledge" and skream "request line" are probably well over 1000. i'm guessing though.
"Request line" sold like 5000

Posted: Tue May 23, 2006 5:27 pm
by bruno belluomini
Very interesting!

Posted: Tue May 23, 2006 7:11 pm
by hate recordings
Spaceboy wrote:it's not a money making game unfortunately, if your going into underground music to become rich, then change the aim before getting too deep into it.
definately not. pressing out records is no kind of money game for any label trying to get up, especially when dealing with underground music.

the reason i ask tho is cuz i've been thinkin about starting a dubstep label up lately. with everything i do, i cant stop thinking of it. so serious. im in the shower : dubstep label. im grocery shopping : dubstep label. hanging out with friends : dubstep label. for the past week ive literally lost sleep over it cuz i cant go to bed without thinking of what i have to do to start one.

it's literally all i can think about. obsessing over it very badly right now. at this point, just getting like a plate out real quickly would really make me happy.

Posted: Tue May 23, 2006 7:15 pm
by ramadanman
pressing issues :D

Posted: Tue May 23, 2006 7:32 pm
by hate recordings
ramadanman wrote:pressing issues :D
pressing issues on point?

i cant really press in the uk because of the us dollar/gb pound conversion. waaaaaay too expensive.

i was gonna get someone that deals with dnb to do the master and cut the lathe tho, someone like stu @ metropolis or somethin. that's who dillinja used to deal with (still deals with? i dunno). mastering HAS to be done in the uk, ALWAYS.

rand muzik in germany is my current pressing plant. they are fucking CHEAP and just did me up some very beautiful 140 gram vinyl records. so solid.

Posted: Tue May 23, 2006 7:51 pm
by 8bitwonder
ramadanman wrote:pressing issues :D
id say :wink:

Posted: Tue May 23, 2006 9:57 pm
by badsign
ramadanman wrote:pressing issues :D
lol!

Posted: Wed May 24, 2006 6:30 am
by 999
puns are good

Posted: Wed May 24, 2006 4:08 pm
by relaks
Interesting stuff! very intersting.....