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please help me make this sound, im goin mad

Posted: Mon Mar 10, 2008 5:52 pm
by cracktactics
Im trying to make this electro/grime kind of synth sound and i have tried for soo long but im getting nowhere. The best example i could think of is the kind of synth joker uses

www.myspace.com/thejokerproductions

the closest is on "3k lane". Even if ur crap at producing, you shud check it out anyway cos its a big tune.

but ye please can someone help me cos im getting nowhere near!

Posted: Mon Mar 10, 2008 7:42 pm
by cracktactics
or anything like this sound, i can hear it in my head but i cant make it...

Posted: Mon Mar 10, 2008 7:50 pm
by foodstampz
dam thanks to putting me on that joker shit. now thats some sikk ass beats. !! kind od dubstep that deosnt make you fall asleep.

anyways theres like 4 major sounds in there. if your talking abotu the lead, and you look at his pics, he has an adromeda.. probably very hard to recreate that sound without a dedicated analog monster like that .

but try taking a lead from masive or blue and upping the semitones . let go of allot of effects and eq it.

Posted: Mon Mar 10, 2008 7:52 pm
by bscorpio
hi, which sound do u mean? there are about 4-5 synth lines, i assume u dont mean the bass, ur probably refering to the higher "lead" sound in the track. Sounds to me like either a PWM pulse wave or 2 slightly detuned square waves and then there's the mod wheel set to add an lfo modulation (at maybe about 7Hz ish) of the pitch and amplitude of the oscillators which is being faded in and out for effect. I'd start out with a simple pwm pulse wave and mess around with adding lfo mod on the pitch and amplitude...

Bs.

Posted: Mon Mar 10, 2008 8:00 pm
by hugh
if ur talking about the wobble then its just an lfo with a bit of FM and weird resonance. if u mean the screechy highs then as he said its likely to either be square waves or triangles ran through low pass then possibly comb with a bit of FM between the squares.

Posted: Mon Mar 10, 2008 8:03 pm
by blizzardmusic
I don't want to sound weird but, why would you want to know the exact sound that he makes?

Posted: Mon Mar 10, 2008 8:04 pm
by cracktactics
Im talking about the high synth line that comes in with the first bass about 4 or 5 seconds in. And i forgot to say before that im using massive...

Posted: Tue Mar 11, 2008 12:26 am
by bscorpio
yeah should be easy to recreate in massive...i just mucked around a bit and got something pretty close, there'd be other ways to do this, but basically the ingredients i used were:

1)using all oscillators select Basic Square-Saw 1
2) set the first 2 to square and the third to saw
2) tune the oscillators to 24.00, 24.17, and 23.93 respectively
3)route them all through a lowpass with no resonance
4) take an LFO set the speed to about 2 o'clock
5) route the LFO to the pitch of *all* 3 oscillators, with a modulation of -1.00
6) route the LFO to the amplitude of *all* 3 oscillators and modulate to about a negative quater turn. (following me?)
7) back at the LFO, select sine wave in the top and 100% in the bottom
8) go to the voicing page, click monophon
9) goto osc page and make sure glide time is set to just under 10 o'clock
10) now as u bring up the X-fade curve slider of the LFO u should hear the vibrato kicking in, u'll need to hook this slider up to ur mod wheel or control knob so u can tweak it while u play.

voila, hope u uderstood what i meant,
BS.

Posted: Tue Mar 11, 2008 11:45 am
by __________
BlizzardMusic wrote:I don't want to sound weird but, why would you want to know the exact sound that he makes?
because it sounds ill? joker probably came up with that sound after going 'how do i get that sound dr dre had?' and tweaking it a bit. what goes around comes around...

Posted: Tue Mar 11, 2008 12:17 pm
by cryptic
theres a close preset on hypersonik 2 - in the hip hop folder

Posted: Tue Mar 11, 2008 1:17 pm
by cracktactics
Cheers thats really helped, thanks for the advice!

and im not trying to rip that sound off cos obviously im gonna tweak it and stuff, i just wanted to get that same type of sound. Its like taking a preset and messing about with it till you get the sound you need.

Posted: Tue Mar 11, 2008 4:48 pm
by holik
£10 Bag wrote:
BlizzardMusic wrote:I don't want to sound weird but, why would you want to know the exact sound that he makes?
because it sounds ill? joker probably came up with that sound after going 'how do i get that sound dr dre had?' and tweaking it a bit. what goes around comes around...
like dre heard wendy do it and decided it was ill, started to flip it.

yes i.
round and round.

Posted: Tue Mar 11, 2008 7:26 pm
by wallace
Trying to get that quak wobble (like a duck) Dubstep sound.

Anyone one wanna help me out with this. :lol:

Just wondering if it involves a live duck at all??

Posted: Tue Mar 11, 2008 10:25 pm
by pupstar
:cozzers:

Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2008 5:12 pm
by wallace
lawlz

That is NOT the sound im looking for...
Those boy's are nuttin but trouble.

Live in Cali, so its more of a weeeeewooooooo weeeeeeeeeewooooo
really hi pitched.
They only quak quak if,

1, your black or mexican
2, you don't pull over

Then your hemmed up on the sidewalk while they fabricate on you.

Being half Mexican i fall into 1 by defualt. Even though i have the features of a white person.

Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2008 10:06 pm
by nekkroteukh
By the way, the track isn't by Joker, it's an early version of "Freak Out" by Jakes. But you're right, the tune is sick.

Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2008 10:08 pm
by pupstar
joker - gully brook lane

Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2008 11:47 pm
by lucid
3kout is mixed in but the song that it is mixed into is the one being referred to here i believe.

Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2008 9:06 am
by jakes
nekkroteukh wrote:By the way, the track isn't by Joker, it's an early version of "Freak Out" by Jakes. But you're right, the tune is sick.

3k out is by me an 3k lane is by me an joker. :roll:

Posted: Wed Apr 02, 2008 3:55 pm
by jokerkhk
tell them again pa pa lol get ya shit rite lol :D