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do people put their kicks under there snares to give em more 'oompf'?

I use envelope shaper

Yes.

Nope, might try this in future, although massive snare isn't really my style, I usually prefer something lighter. I sometimes layer with pitched-up claps though.

lots of people do it but i think it sounds a bit ugly. if you want a big snare you could also take a weightier one and layer it in (bandpass it around 200-800Hz-ish perhaps) or layer a tom under it for a similar effect to a kick but a bit less extreme.....

use sum scream 4 audio distortion

alternatively you could send your snares to a new buss and put a multiband compressor on it and then select all the bands that you don't want to emphasise and put an infinite reduction on those and then no reduction but makeup gain on the band that you do want to emphasise and then (using phase correction if neccesary) mix it back in with your original signal....



ahem.

distortion and layering a weighty snare underneath it usally does the trick for me

if that's what the groove calls for... yes. if not... no.

usually but it depends on the kind of material im working with.

the freq's r too far apart (kick being 80-100hz lower atleast) to blend well with the upper freq and noise of the snare.. around 180-250 is snare weight scan through ur samples

909 snares and claps r common to be layered underneith as they ahve good weight


it all comes down to the pattern and sound your looking for.. its quite common to have kicks underneith snares in reggae/dub rhythms but its not the weight you will hear in alot of dnb and dubstep
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voodoo2 wrote:do people put their kicks under there snares to give em more 'oompf'?

EQ'ing and layering snares will give 'oomph'.

Having a kick under the snare will probably just make you're 'kick drum pattern/rythmn' different (i.e. the two will still sound separate from each other whether layered or not). it's not the way i would try to make a fatter snare.

only if you have the right kick/snare combo then it can sound seriously heavyweight. dont be trying it with basic claps and shit unless you want some half step house sound.

it depends doesn't it.

apples and pears...

Not really, no. I usually layer a couple of snares or use a synth to generate some noise/fuzz/oomph to put under and eq it. I'm getting tired of sampled kicks and snares anyway and use more and more synthesis to create percussion instruments. It's quite hard and time consuming though.

occasionally but it really just depends on if its working with the rest of your track. however, usually i find i get better results with layering

-try to pitcjh down your snares
-search disco snares from the 70's 80's
-vengeance essential house pack has wicked snares
-mess with a enveloper

i took a screen shot of what i do to a flanger in reason to give oomf to my redrum.

cheers people, be trying a fair few suggestions from you all. Like alot of you have said it does depend on the track and what else is going on but at the moment i like the big punchy sounding beats with loadsa percussion. safe