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help/plugins for logic?

Posted: Wed Mar 19, 2008 4:40 am
by Elkie
ok so im trying to like, learn logic, but i dont really know where to start...

i create a simple song in garageband (please dont laugh) and then opened it up in logic, cause i thought this might be the easiest way to help me understand how to do the things i know how to do in garageband, but i cant seem to figure any of it out...

basically, does anyone know of any decent tutorial websites?
preferably text/image based, as i find them easier to follow than video ones...

also, i was wondering, how do i get plug in instruments into logic, and does anyone know of any decent plug ins that i can download for free?
im really new to all of this stuff, sorry if this all seems really stupid....

thanks for your help guys!

Posted: Wed Mar 19, 2008 11:10 am
by John Locke
only AU plugins work wit logic, to get them to show up u'll need to stick them in the components folder (click on yr hard disk, then library>audio>plug ins>components). make sure u unpack the component from its folders first if its something u downloaded and unzipped. they should now show up when u go to select an AU instrument in the channel strip

there's a lot less plug ins available free for mac than PC, but u'll still find plenty to keep u busy linked on the KVR audio site (google it. or i think its probably linked in the production bible thread)

not sure about tutorials that aint video. there's some decent ones on youtube if you can get over that block tho (sum1 posted this the other day, liking it, plenty of very basic stuff: http://www.youtube.com/user/SFLogicNinja ). and for all other advice you're better off asking on: http://www.logicprohelp.com/

or read the manual

Posted: Wed Mar 19, 2008 11:44 am
by ism
picked up a copy of this fair cheap off amazon

´Apple Pro Training Series: Logic Pro 8 and Logic Express 8 (Apple Pro Training) by David Nahmani´.

its not the type of thing your gonna read cover to cover but everythings in there so its kinda become ma bible when somethings evading me.

hope this helps

Posted: Wed Mar 19, 2008 12:39 pm
by MARCHMELLOW
http://www.macprovideo.com/browse/logic

have to buy it, buts its well worth it if you aint to good with logic.

sit back, roll a zut , crack a beer and let some american guy teach you how to use logic!! lol

Posted: Wed Mar 19, 2008 2:34 pm
by Sharmaji
there's tutorials all over youtube as well.

david's book is great. i believe he's the brains behind logicprohelp.com . invaluable resource.

good looks on moving from garageband to logic. no reason to make fun of that, i honestly wish a lot of people would start in GB and get down the basics rather than think they're jumping into the BEST SHIT EVAR with logic.

logic ships with at least a dozen (counting in my head) plugs that are all immediately useful-- a good amount of synths, great, straightforward sampler, and a great sounding drum machine. read up in the manual on the details of each... shit like the ES2 and sculpture are extremely, extremely deep plugs.

the easiest way to get up and running quickly in logic is to use the channel strip presets.

Posted: Wed Mar 19, 2008 2:39 pm
by leao
Search on you tube for the author "SFLogicNinja" This guy provides some of the best, easy to understand tutorials about the basics of Logic 8. Plus, it's free :)

Posted: Wed Mar 19, 2008 2:49 pm
by John Locke
leao wrote:Search on you tube for the author "SFLogicNinja" This guy provides some of the best, easy to understand tutorials about the basics of Logic 8. Plus, it's free :)

or, alternatively, read the whole thread b4 posting

Posted: Wed Mar 19, 2008 4:27 pm
by leao
Battle Gong wrote:
leao wrote:Search on you tube for the author "SFLogicNinja" This guy provides some of the best, easy to understand tutorials about the basics of Logic 8. Plus, it's free :)

or, alternatively, read the whole thread b4 posting
saw it right after I hit "submit", but thanks for the lesson....

Posted: Wed Mar 19, 2008 5:07 pm
by John Locke
it happens. anyway i nicked the link of sum1 elses thread in the first place. yours maybe?

Posted: Wed Mar 19, 2008 5:11 pm
by tmu
TeReKeTe wrote:there's tutorials all over youtube as well.

shit like the ES2 and sculpture are extremely, extremely deep plugs.
yep, theres a good tutorial on both of these plugs also, Es2 and sculpture, try to get hold of em if you can.

i have a feeling that sculpture may be the most underused plugin within logic...at least in dubstep.. ?

maybe people dont realise how deep plug it is. You can do more than basic string sounds with it, all kinds of stuff, basses, wicked wobbles, effects..all kinds of complex shit, but it can be pretty hard to get into. anyway if you can get hold of the tutorial on sculpture i recommend checking it out.

Posted: Wed Mar 19, 2008 5:11 pm
by brklss
I always tend to say learning by doing and it definitely helps! Load Logic, have the manuals ready and just do it! Don't be ashamed to use any tool. In the end of the day, it's only a tool. You might be able to produce things which sound amazing. It's not the tool which limits you, it's yourself.

The book by David is extremely helpful and I highly recommend it.

Posted: Wed Mar 19, 2008 5:16 pm
by John Locke
yeah, another vote for sculpture. but almost reluctant 2 big it up too much, kind of like the idea everyone else sleepin on it. fuckin amazin synth

Posted: Wed Mar 19, 2008 9:33 pm
by Elkie
ah cheers for all the help guys!
im goona try and get a copy of that boook then, looks like it could prove very useful, and i seem to find it easier to learn stuff from a book than a video.

i finally worked out how to load Au plugins into tracks, although this took me a whole night :oops: but im sure ill slowly learn more haha!

im kinda struggling to make any synth sound sound less tacky and stuff at the minute, they all sound like cheap sci fi film soundtracks :(

oh well, one step at a time eh? :roll:

Posted: Wed Mar 19, 2008 10:07 pm
by Sharmaji
read the plug-in manual. there's some intense tutorials in there. if you don't want to lug out the actual paper manual, they're there in your 'help' menu. also the ES2 has a great selection of tutorial settings.

really, read the manuals. the logic manuals are excellently written and very, very extensive, even delving into how vocoders work, explanations of different kinds of synthesis, all the differnt uses of ultrabeat and it's step sequencer... to say nothing of the hyper editor, the total throughput of sidechainging, busses and auxes...

seriously. RTM.

Re: help/plugins for logic?

Posted: Fri May 30, 2008 2:27 pm
by ali jamieson
TightLife wrote:basically, does anyone know of any decent tutorial websites?
preferably text/image based, as i find them easier to follow than video ones...
there's plenty of stuff on youtube, and logic's manual is daunting but usefull
TightLife wrote:also, i was wondering, how do i get plug in instruments into logic, and does anyone know of any decent plug ins that i can download for free?
google destroy fx, mda, livecut, camel audio [they do demo stuff u can bounce] krv audio etc

ali