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hazard - busted synth/bass

Posted: Sun Mar 23, 2008 7:45 pm
by spacekip
can anybody here help me making a synth/bass like hazard uses in the track "busted"??

thanks in advance, netsky

Posted: Sun Mar 23, 2008 8:55 pm
by kato!
You don't want to copy his sound really, come up with your own, it's the best way! Have fun experiment!

Posted: Mon Mar 24, 2008 12:28 am
by kronika
that is possibly the most badman bass sound ever made though 8)

Posted: Sun Mar 30, 2008 10:50 am
by spacekip
yeah man can anybody help me with creating something like his bass?
many dnb producers use a sound like this these days

thanks!

Posted: Sun Mar 30, 2008 11:02 am
by habitualbeatscamp
Filters, attack., etc...


Not sure why anyone would wanna bite that kind of style. Thats just me though, I'm all set with jump-up these days.

Posted: Sun Apr 13, 2008 10:27 pm
by spacekip
come on people can anybody help me here? i've upoaded a short sample of the kind of synth i wanna use:
http://www.zshare.net/audio/1049226325362305/

Posted: Sun Apr 13, 2008 10:32 pm
by defiance
this is just a guess but to me it sounds like some sort of modulated/filtered brass instrument played at a high pitch maybe... as i said just a guess

Posted: Sun Apr 13, 2008 10:41 pm
by spacekip
thanks i can try that
has anybody else got any ideas for this?

Posted: Sun Apr 13, 2008 10:41 pm
by uproot
spacekip wrote:yeah man can anybody help me with creating something like his bass?
many dnb producers use a sound like this these days

thanks!
Surely thats a sign to make something different?

Posted: Sun Apr 13, 2008 10:43 pm
by daft cunt
spacekip wrote:come on people can anybody help me here? i've upoaded a short sample of the kind of synth i wanna use:
http://www.zshare.net/audio/1049226325362305/
To me it sounds like a cheap electronic fly fart.

Posted: Sun Apr 13, 2008 11:00 pm
by uproot
Daft tnuc wrote:
spacekip wrote:come on people can anybody help me here? i've upoaded a short sample of the kind of synth i wanna use:
http://www.zshare.net/audio/1049226325362305/
To me it sounds like a cheap electronic fly fart.
LOL... just a touch of sub and you have it! :lol:

Posted: Mon Apr 14, 2008 8:44 am
by futures_untold
that sounds like a hoover sound.

That can be achieved easily with a synth that has pulse width modulation.

Set the oscillator shape to sawtooth and lfo/adsr to modulate the pulse width. Apply a bit of distortion and filtering for good measure. Your sample you posted sounded as if it had been highpass or band pass filtered...

If you don't have a synth with pulse width modulation, a similar effect can still be achieved. You will need a synth with at least two oscillators. Detune one oscillator by about 5 or 10 cents before adding distortion and filtering etc. The more oscillators the merrier. If you had six oscillators each detuned between 2 and 5 cents apart, you would have a super thick, rich sound which once distorted and filtered would sound similar to the sample you posted.

You could also use a touch of chorus, super tight delay (set between 10 to 100 milliseconds) or lfo modulated comb filtering to further phatten your sound....

Hope that helps?

Posted: Mon Apr 14, 2008 2:31 pm
by spacekip
futures_untold wrote:that sounds like a hoover sound.

That can be achieved easily with a synth that has pulse width modulation.

Set the oscillator shape to sawtooth and lfo/adsr to modulate the pulse width. Apply a bit of distortion and filtering for good measure. Your sample you posted sounded as if it had been highpass or band pass filtered...

If you don't have a synth with pulse width modulation, a similar effect can still be achieved. You will need a synth with at least two oscillators. Detune one oscillator by about 5 or 10 cents before adding distortion and filtering etc. The more oscillators the merrier. If you had six oscillators each detuned between 2 and 5 cents apart, you would have a super thick, rich sound which once distorted and filtered would sound similar to the sample you posted.

You could also use a touch of chorus, super tight delay (set between 10 to 100 milliseconds) or lfo modulated comb filtering to further phatten your sound....

Hope that helps?

thanks for your help mate!
i'll try that tonight, i'll post the result

Posted: Mon Apr 14, 2008 2:59 pm
by spacekip
ok i have to admit i'm not a hero at sytnhs but here's what i get when i put an lfo on the pulse width:

http://www.zshare.net/audio/105300206ffef559/

anybody here who can tell me what i'm doing wrong?

Posted: Mon Apr 14, 2008 3:04 pm
by djelements
spacekip wrote:ok i have to admit i'm not a hero at sytnhs but here's what i get when i put an lfo on the pulse width:

http://www.zshare.net/audio/105300206ffef559/

anybody here who can tell me what i'm doing wrong?
Uh... Copying someone else's shit?

Posted: Mon Apr 14, 2008 3:08 pm
by spacekip
DJelements wrote:
spacekip wrote:ok i have to admit i'm not a hero at sytnhs but here's what i get when i put an lfo on the pulse width:

http://www.zshare.net/audio/105300206ffef559/

anybody here who can tell me what i'm doing wrong?
Uh... Copying someone else's shit?
im just trying to get a similar synth mate not a similar track

Posted: Mon Apr 14, 2008 3:11 pm
by djelements
spacekip wrote:
DJelements wrote:
spacekip wrote:ok i have to admit i'm not a hero at sytnhs but here's what i get when i put an lfo on the pulse width:

http://www.zshare.net/audio/105300206ffef559/

anybody here who can tell me what i'm doing wrong?
Uh... Copying someone else's shit?
im just trying to get a similar synth mate not a similar track
Yeah, I know, I know. Thing is, you gotta branch out and make your own stuff. But I think what it basically is is just make it individual fly farts rather than a fly fart LFO. Just my opinion.

Posted: Mon Apr 14, 2008 3:20 pm
by futures_untold
A few pointerss..

1. the sample your listening to has no low frequencies in it.. This is certainly due to being band pass or high pass filtered... Strap a filter across the output of your synth as an insert effect, then set the filter cut-off anywhere above 250Hz on high pass mode.

2. lower the amount/depth that the lfo modulates the pulse width modulation... Speed up the lfo further.. needs to be super fast (but not too fast!)..

3. Have a super fast attack on your amp envelope adsr and a medium short release time... When you trigger a note, the sound should kick in instantly. (The pulse width modulation will give it the electric vibe). When the note is released, you should hear the sound trail out slightly...

Posted: Mon Apr 14, 2008 3:22 pm
by futures_untold
are you using reason by chance? I'll send you a combi patch.. ;)

Posted: Mon Apr 14, 2008 3:32 pm
by spacekip
ok this is a screenshot of my vst now:

http://www.zshare.net/image/105314691cd24822/

and heres my new sample:

http://www.zshare.net/audio/10531510c6b410fb/