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Drum Patterns
Posted: Thu Jun 08, 2006 3:26 am
by theverdict
what drum patterns do you all use to make dubstep?
I get stuck on patterns and my tunes come out sounding all weird.

Re: Drum Patterns
Posted: Thu Jun 08, 2006 6:24 am
by metalboxproducts
theVerdict wrote:what drum patterns do you all use to make dubstep?
I get stuck on patterns and my tunes come out sounding all weird.

What do you mean when you say weird. The drums sound fine to me, interms of pattern. Lots of heavy proscessing in a good way.
Posted: Thu Jun 08, 2006 6:59 am
by shonky
Don't think there's anything particularly wrong with the drum patterns. I would recommend setting up a kit on one channel (kick, snares, hats, cymbals, etc) and tapping the beats out rather than writing them in. I usually find that if you tap in the bass and snare to a click and then add in the hats after you get quite good results. You can always separate the individual drums onto different channels and effect accordingly afterwards.
You end up with a more organic sound (and your music does sound more disposed to the real sounds) and you can practice and come up with ideas by simply tapping tables to any rhythm in your head.
Alternatively you could take a break from recycle, take the midi file from it and use your own hits if you want a real drummer effect.
Like those tunes by the way, Sepentia's real nice

Posted: Thu Jun 08, 2006 7:07 am
by theverdict
well yea but those arent my dubstep tracks.
When I make dubstep it sounds bleh.
Those are just just some triphop/experimental stuff im screwing around with. But thanks for the comment shonky.
I guess im saying as in drum patterns what beat is dubstep. Is it liek a half step?
Cuz all my dubstep tracks sound kinda odd on teh drum patterns. Hard to explain I guess=/
Posted: Thu Jun 08, 2006 7:08 am
by theverdict
Shonky wrote:Don't think there's anything particularly wrong with the drum patterns. I would recommend setting up a kit on one channel (kick, snares, hats, cymbals, etc) and tapping the beats out rather than writing them in. I usually find that if you tap in the bass and snare to a click and then add in the hats after you get quite good results. You can always separate the individual drums onto different channels and effect accordingly afterward.
Yea I should try this out. Thanks man.

Posted: Thu Jun 08, 2006 7:27 am
by metalboxproducts
theVerdict wrote:well yea but those arent my dubstep tracks.
When I make dubstep it sounds bleh.
Those are just just some triphop/experimental stuff im screwing around with. But thanks for the comment shonky.
I guess im saying as in drum patterns what beat is dubstep. Is it liek a half step?
Cuz all my dubstep tracks sound kinda odd on teh drum patterns. Hard to explain I guess=/
Yep half step at about 140 bpm, but i would say experiment try for something a little different. Take the first snare hit out of a bar and it becomes half step anyway or at least to the ear.Goos luck with your programming

Posted: Thu Jun 08, 2006 10:04 am
by theverdict
Werd.
I'll try it out.
Thanx.
Re: Drum Patterns
Posted: Thu Jun 08, 2006 6:29 pm
by djgyn
theVerdict wrote:what drum patterns do you all use to make dubstep?
I get stuck on patterns and my tunes come out sounding all weird.

I'm confused. What question are you asking? Are you asking how to make a dubstep beat, like where to put the kicks and snares, or more generally about improving the flow of your rhythms?
Re: Drum Patterns
Posted: Thu Jun 08, 2006 7:49 pm
by theverdict
djgyn wrote:theVerdict wrote:what drum patterns do you all use to make dubstep?
I get stuck on patterns and my tunes come out sounding all weird.

I'm confused. What question are you asking? Are you asking how to make a dubstep beat, like where to put the kicks and snares, or more generally about improving the flow of your rhythms?
yea asking what pattern people use.
like k-sn-k or k-k--- sn etc.......
Posted: Thu Jun 08, 2006 8:20 pm
by shonky
Varies from person to person, track to track. Digital Mystikz - Misty Winter, Anti-war dub, Haunted - all have completely different grooves, but all from the same people for example.
Easiest way to do this is by tapping notes in. May sound incredibly simple, but try tapping rhythims out on whatevers round you, one hand for kick the other for snare, and then tranlate this to your keyboard. If you can hit it out, you can make a groove, keep it simple and then add ornamentation as and when needed. It really is that simple. Limiting yourself to "dubstep patterns" will only limit your creativity.
Posted: Thu Jun 08, 2006 9:42 pm
by theverdict
true.
Posted: Thu Jun 08, 2006 10:31 pm
by metalboxproducts
Limiting yourself to "dubstep patterns" will only limit your creativity.
Yes yes, on the spot right there, my rude charge, ja listen tings.

Posted: Fri Jun 09, 2006 9:58 am
by metalboxproducts
Posted: Fri Jun 09, 2006 11:18 am
by theverdict
Posted: Fri Jun 09, 2006 7:29 pm
by j_j
switch the snap off.
Posted: Fri Jun 09, 2006 8:04 pm
by shonky
J_J wrote:switch the snap off.
Yep, what he said. If they're really out of time you can shift em about in the matrix editor, but you'll get proper raw grooves from it