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memories of the future......sounds lifeless......am i wrong? i don't think i'd use the word dubstep to describe it.

9 samurai is a serious tune

haven't heard enough of the rest of the album to judge

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it's your opinion, so your never wrong.

Music for the dub zombie army of the undead trying to remember what life was all about.

If it ain't dubstep it's better than dubstep

Its not dubstep just because kode9 produced it, nor is it dubstep cause your local shop put in the section where you find "dubstep". Im not saying its dubstep or not either, but i do know thats its some cool shit to listen to.

Those tunes get a lively reaction.

why should we reply to this if you don't explain why you think it's lifeless?

i can say anything is lifeless, but it doesn't mean a thing unless i put it in a context.

[quote]why should we reply to this if you don't explain why you think it's lifeless?[/quote

don't reply if you don't feel you should. there is no context.......it just sounds dead to me. deadstep. no fire in the belly..... but maybe that's because i'm not yet a member of the dub zombie army of the non-dead. soon enough.

ursditsky wrote:

seckle wrote:why should we reply to this if you don't explain why you think it's lifeless?

don't reply if you don't feel you should. there is no context.......it just sounds dead to me. deadstep. no fire in the belly..... but maybe that's because i'm not yet a member of the dub zombie army of the non-dead. soon enough.

zzzzz

seckle wrote:
i can say anything is lifeless, but it doesn't mean a thing unless i put it in a context.

lifeless = devoid of soul = dub zombie

I'd use the word lifeless to describe quite a few of the tunes I hear these days... not so much for that album tho. I'd say it captures a period in time in which dubstep had momentum in every conceivable direction, while retaining a truly dread core. now dubstep is understood as a dance music, and has stylistically eroded, even within that context. I'd recommend digging in the dubstep past for some interesting material!

*cue the reemergence of the dmz family

I would say dystopian rather than lifeless.

Listen to the technocolour synths in quantum or the undulating bass in correction and the horn samples in 9 samurai (taken from akira kurasawa's 7 samurai). These sounds reflect concepts such as honour, sacrifice and war that are prevalent in the film. Kode9 used these to great effect. To say these things are lifeless seems a little backward. The lyrics are reflective on life processes, of the way people think and act. I think it is subdued in parts, and looks on a dismal future, but that doesn't make it dead. However, if someone wants to hear death in it, then that's how they will recieved it.[/i]

Lifeless is not the word I'd use...you are listening to the wrong artist if you don't feel it so move on. MOTF is one of my favorite albums/recordings at the moment...forget "dubstep" or any other genre. Sounds like you are more into other more traditional producers so seek them out. I can come up with comparisons like this to any genre of music...any piece of art. Maybe MOTF will grow on you b/c it's just so original sounding.

staypuft wrote:I'd say it captures a period in time in which dubstep had momentum in every conceivable direction, while retaining a truly dread core.

well said.

ha, I've listened to MOTF a few more times and have to admit there are potent signs of life that i didn't notice the first time through. i agree with all the comments about the irrelevance of whether or not the album can be accurately labeled as dubstep, in the end, each creation is it's own mini-genre anyway. i'd still say the music is too dark and sparse for my liking, but the more i listen to it the less empty it sounds.

ursditsky wrote: i'd still say the music is too dark and sparse

dark and sparse. that is dubstep to me. i would say that MOTF is archetypal dubstep.

ursditsky wrote:ha, I've listened to MOTF a few more times and have to admit there are potent signs of life that i didn't notice the first time through. i agree with all the comments about the irrelevance of whether or not the album can be accurately labeled as dubstep, in the end, each creation is it's own mini-genre anyway. i'd still say the music is too dark and sparse for my liking, but the more i listen to it the less empty it sounds.

Hooray, so that's that cleared up then.

When you say 'lifeless' do you mean subtle by any chance? MOTF has more ideas and soul than any dubstep-by-numbers wobblecore to me!