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Do you ever use FLAC files?
Posted: Sun Jul 20, 2008 4:36 pm
by psyolopher
I sometimes do it when i rip cd's....
320 mp3's do it for me though.....
Is this file that much used at all?
Posted: Sun Jul 20, 2008 4:37 pm
by Pistonsbeneath
if im playing out off ableton then i will always flac and tunes from cds i have...320s sound fine though & a vinyl Ripped flac wont sound as good as a digital download 320
Posted: Sun Jul 20, 2008 4:42 pm
by psyolopher
Piston wrote:if im playing out off ableton then i will always flac and tunes from cds i have...320s sound fine though & a vinyl Ripped flac wont sound as good as a digital download 320
Really?
i've never used Ableton, but you hear a big difference in 320 and flac out of Ableton?
Has it much to say when you are for an example playing Live?
Posted: Sun Jul 20, 2008 4:47 pm
by Pistonsbeneath
Psyolopher wrote:Piston wrote:if im playing out off ableton then i will always flac and tunes from cds i have...320s sound fine though & a vinyl Ripped flac wont sound as good as a digital download 320
Really?
i've never used Ableton, but you hear a big difference in 320 and flac out of Ableton?
Has it much to say when you are for an example playing Live?
I don't understand....if it's playing through a huge system it will make a difference...but a lot of it is in the mind...i go bigger if i can...seems silly not to:)
Posted: Sun Jul 20, 2008 5:22 pm
by psyolopher
Interesting point you state!
Guess you're right!

Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 12:33 am
by wil blaze
flac = exact same quality as wav/cd audio...
i use them a fair bit
Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 12:36 am
by psyolopher
Wil Blaze wrote:flac = exact same quality as wav/cd audio...
i use them a fair bit
So i've heard, but the real question is!
WAV OR FLAC?

Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 2:10 am
by betamaxnomates
Ableton converts all mp3s to wavs anyway, does it not?
Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 7:59 am
by wil blaze
Psyolopher wrote:Wil Blaze wrote:flac = exact same quality as wav/cd audio...
i use them a fair bit
So i've heard, but the real question is!
WAV OR FLAC?

well it doesn't really matter does it? only difference is file size and wav is more portable...
Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 9:22 am
by brokenshaman
I buy all my files from addictech on Flac.
It's a bit cheaper than wav, smaller filesize and is lossless.
Don't really use them for playing out.
Serato doesn't support them and ableton converts them to a wav anyway, so you end up using up space for the Flac file and the wav conversion.
Basically, I just use them for storage, converting to wav or mp3 as required using dbpoweramp converter.
Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 9:44 am
by d-T-r
BETAMAXNOMATES wrote:Ableton converts all mp3s to wavs anyway, does it not?
although you can convert an mp3 to a wav, its pretty pointless quality/ bit -rate wise...that would be like going to the car wash with a ford and coming out with a ferrari.
Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 9:57 am
by dvnt
dTruk wrote:BETAMAXNOMATES wrote:Ableton converts all mp3s to wavs anyway, does it not?
although you can convert an mp3 to a wav, its pretty pointless quality/ bit -rate wise...that would be like going to the car wash with a ford and coming out with a ferrari.
Yes. But in Ableton decompressing an MP3 to WAV it uses up the HD space for both the original MP3 and the WAV.
I convert everything I play in Ableton to WAV prior to warping/playing so I don't have to make Ableton do that and so I can save HD space.
Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 11:12 am
by jahtao
FLAC, annoyingly not supported by iTunes
Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 12:31 pm
by psyolopher
jahtao wrote:FLAC, annoyingly not supported by iTunes
Strange, somehow iTunes always pissed the living hell outta me!
Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 1:53 pm
by wil blaze
with a bit of luck flac will start to become more widely supported (it already has to some extent... i believe Native Instruments might be supporting now/soon) cos it's a great format...
i would love to see flac taking the throne from mp3 as the compression format of choice but i don't see it happening cos the ratios aren't big enough... even with broadband speeds at a high and storage space cheap as ever people are still impatient and most people just don't care about the shit quality of mp3s....
oh well
Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 2:11 pm
by psyolopher
There is hope, i remember before that 128 kbit mp3's were the dominating ones! then the 192, then now 320......
Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 3:44 pm
by wil blaze
yeah but they are all still the same format... all playable through the same codec...
for flac to become the new standard would take a lot more change...
people using different bitrate mp3s is not a change in this regard