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Do you ever use FLAC files?

Posted: Sun Jul 20, 2008 4:36 pm
by psyolopher
I sometimes do it when i rip cd's....
320 mp3's do it for me though.....

Is this file that much used at all?

Posted: Sun Jul 20, 2008 4:37 pm
by Pistonsbeneath
if im playing out off ableton then i will always flac and tunes from cds i have...320s sound fine though & a vinyl Ripped flac wont sound as good as a digital download 320

Posted: Sun Jul 20, 2008 4:42 pm
by psyolopher
Piston wrote:if im playing out off ableton then i will always flac and tunes from cds i have...320s sound fine though & a vinyl Ripped flac wont sound as good as a digital download 320
Really?
i've never used Ableton, but you hear a big difference in 320 and flac out of Ableton?
Has it much to say when you are for an example playing Live?

Posted: Sun Jul 20, 2008 4:47 pm
by Pistonsbeneath
Psyolopher wrote:
Piston wrote:if im playing out off ableton then i will always flac and tunes from cds i have...320s sound fine though & a vinyl Ripped flac wont sound as good as a digital download 320
Really?
i've never used Ableton, but you hear a big difference in 320 and flac out of Ableton?
Has it much to say when you are for an example playing Live?
I don't understand....if it's playing through a huge system it will make a difference...but a lot of it is in the mind...i go bigger if i can...seems silly not to:)

Posted: Sun Jul 20, 2008 5:22 pm
by psyolopher
Interesting point you state!
Guess you're right! :lol:

Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 12:33 am
by wil blaze
flac = exact same quality as wav/cd audio...

i use them a fair bit

Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 12:36 am
by psyolopher
Wil Blaze wrote:flac = exact same quality as wav/cd audio...

i use them a fair bit
So i've heard, but the real question is!
WAV OR FLAC? :studio:

Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 2:10 am
by betamaxnomates
Ableton converts all mp3s to wavs anyway, does it not?

Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 7:59 am
by wil blaze
Psyolopher wrote:
Wil Blaze wrote:flac = exact same quality as wav/cd audio...

i use them a fair bit
So i've heard, but the real question is!
WAV OR FLAC? :studio:
well it doesn't really matter does it? only difference is file size and wav is more portable...

Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 9:22 am
by brokenshaman
I buy all my files from addictech on Flac.

It's a bit cheaper than wav, smaller filesize and is lossless.

Don't really use them for playing out.

Serato doesn't support them and ableton converts them to a wav anyway, so you end up using up space for the Flac file and the wav conversion.

Basically, I just use them for storage, converting to wav or mp3 as required using dbpoweramp converter.

Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 9:44 am
by d-T-r
BETAMAXNOMATES wrote:Ableton converts all mp3s to wavs anyway, does it not?
although you can convert an mp3 to a wav, its pretty pointless quality/ bit -rate wise...that would be like going to the car wash with a ford and coming out with a ferrari.

Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 9:57 am
by dvnt
dTruk wrote:
BETAMAXNOMATES wrote:Ableton converts all mp3s to wavs anyway, does it not?
although you can convert an mp3 to a wav, its pretty pointless quality/ bit -rate wise...that would be like going to the car wash with a ford and coming out with a ferrari.
Yes. But in Ableton decompressing an MP3 to WAV it uses up the HD space for both the original MP3 and the WAV.

I convert everything I play in Ableton to WAV prior to warping/playing so I don't have to make Ableton do that and so I can save HD space.

Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 11:12 am
by jahtao
FLAC, annoyingly not supported by iTunes

Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 12:31 pm
by psyolopher
jahtao wrote:FLAC, annoyingly not supported by iTunes
Strange, somehow iTunes always pissed the living hell outta me!

Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 1:53 pm
by wil blaze
with a bit of luck flac will start to become more widely supported (it already has to some extent... i believe Native Instruments might be supporting now/soon) cos it's a great format...

i would love to see flac taking the throne from mp3 as the compression format of choice but i don't see it happening cos the ratios aren't big enough... even with broadband speeds at a high and storage space cheap as ever people are still impatient and most people just don't care about the shit quality of mp3s.... :(

oh well

Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 2:11 pm
by psyolopher
There is hope, i remember before that 128 kbit mp3's were the dominating ones! then the 192, then now 320......

Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 3:44 pm
by wil blaze
yeah but they are all still the same format... all playable through the same codec...

for flac to become the new standard would take a lot more change...

people using different bitrate mp3s is not a change in this regard