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Is this Dubstep?

Posted: Mon Aug 11, 2008 3:38 am
by torik
Hey guys, would you consider this Dubstep?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SsHe9qhCsBY

I like the way this track sounds.
Can you guys recommend any similar tracks?

Posted: Mon Aug 11, 2008 5:58 am
by boring-
why would u thik that was dubstep?

dubstep tempo is usually like 140ish

Posted: Mon Aug 11, 2008 6:22 am
by le monde blur
that would be drum n bass.

Posted: Mon Aug 11, 2008 8:09 pm
by torik
le monde blur wrote:that would be drum n bass.
Are you sure? Seems way too slow to be DnB.

This track is fairly similar, and the guy's calling it Breakstep:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ydHA1zahZeQ

But like other people in the comments, I'm tempted to call it Liquid Dubstep.

As a fan of Liquid DnB, I really like this stuff. I want to find more of it.

Posted: Mon Aug 11, 2008 8:25 pm
by section 8
sounds like dnb to me


Calibre does do dubstep though :)

Posted: Mon Aug 11, 2008 8:50 pm
by dov
Torik wrote:
le monde blur wrote:that would be drum n bass.
Are you sure? Seems way too slow to be DnB.

This track is fairly similar, and the guy's calling it Breakstep:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ydHA1zahZeQ

But like other people in the comments, I'm tempted to call it Liquid Dubstep.

As a fan of Liquid DnB, I really like this stuff. I want to find more of it.
This one is breakstep with a very blurry line for what is dubstep too, the first one you posted was 100% without doubt Drum and Bass, not breakstep or dubstep, it's about 40 BPM faster than the second one you posted.
To tell the truth Dubstep is broad enough that I don't even know if there is a need for the 'Breakstep' subgenre. I think it's been accepted by the Dubstep community / top jocks and producers that you can do anything from 65BPM tracks that sit in the 65 BPM pocket and then still also make dubstep tracks that are 140 BPM that ride a 4/4 vibe and basically everything in between that has a Polyrhythmic vibe or captures a 'dub' vibe.

The style for the second tune was actually used a bit in the late nineties and early 2000's in labels that did Breaks, 2-Step and Garage and also later had slower tempo Nu-Jazz and Broken Beat. If you like that vibe, I'm sure you'll find plenty of tunes you like listed under 'Nu-Jazz / Broken Beat'.

There have been dubstep and breakstep tunes and labels out in the years before 'Dubstep' was even coined as a genre (like Tempa).
Often the exact same beat loop / programmed loop at different tempo is a different genre in electronic music, like if you took a 124 BPM tech - house loop and played it 140 BPM it would not be tech house any more and would probably be classified in Techno / hard-house, depending on what sort of percussion / synths were used.
So with Breaks, Dubstep, Drum and Bass, Grime even more hyphe style Hip Hop, basically the genres associated with being more urban, you will find a lot of similar or the same beat loops / patterns and even many of the same bass sounds and synth leads, but with different tempo and programming nuances.
Most of these genres tend to go through phases where one sort of loop is more popular than others and if that sort of beat pattern get's very popular it's often results in it evolving into a micro-genre, like DnB has Jump-up, Techstep, Jungle etc

sorry if that's too much info, but I hope it helps.

Posted: Mon Aug 11, 2008 8:55 pm
by boring-
nice post dov

VIBES!

Posted: Tue Aug 12, 2008 4:42 am
by torik
Thank you so much for the info Dov. Great Post!
I really appreciate your help.

Do you guys know any good online stores to get this kind of stuff?
I've been using Beatport and Breakbeat.co.uk.
Are there any better ones?

Posted: Tue Aug 12, 2008 11:56 am
by 8bitboi

Posted: Tue Aug 12, 2008 8:14 pm
by tacospheros
that's one of toasty's best tunes IMO

Posted: Tue Aug 12, 2008 8:52 pm
by signus
1st one is deffo DnB. Similar people to check out producing that sound would be:

Alix Perez
Lynx
Commix

Best sound in DnB