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Is dubstep the last major shift in dance music?

Posted: Mon Aug 25, 2008 11:49 am
by promo
I suspect like most the reason I got into this music was because of the 'wow this is totally new' factor and the evilness/weightiness of it and that fact that it sounds incredible loud and is fun to dance/groove to. So is this the last seriously major shift in dance music?

Posted: Mon Aug 25, 2008 11:51 am
by seeds - tpb
dance music will shift forever


one day robots will be making it
lol




the possiblities are endless mate
endless

Re: Is dubstep the last major shift in dance music?

Posted: Mon Aug 25, 2008 11:51 am
by Pada
Promo wrote:I suspect like most the reason I got into this music was because of the 'wow this is totally new' factor and the evilness/weightiness of it and that fact that it sounds incredible loud and is fun to dance/groove to. So is this the last seriously major shift in dance music?
no.

this is just a continuation of the hardcore/jungle/garage/dnb line.

Techno and House also exist you know...

Re: Is dubstep the last major shift in dance music?

Posted: Mon Aug 25, 2008 11:57 am
by promo
adisize wrote:
Promo wrote:I suspect like most the reason I got into this music was because of the 'wow this is totally new' factor and the evilness/weightiness of it and that fact that it sounds incredible loud and is fun to dance/groove to. So is this the last seriously major shift in dance music?
no.

this is just a continuation of the hardcore/jungle/garage/dnb line.

Techno and House also exist you know...
Yeah, I know. I've been listening to electronic music for over 15 years. However dubstep is a major shit ... different rhythms/structure/groove etc. The point is we've had house/acid/ambient techno/techno/hardcore/jungle/gabba/dnb/breakcore etc etc and now when dubstep arrived its a monumental shift so yeah naturally I wonder if it'll ever occur again because its extremely exciting when it does and you can experience it.

Posted: Mon Aug 25, 2008 12:01 pm
by Littlefoot
whats more exciting is dubsteps openess to merging with other genres due to its very unstrict structure.

some dubstep can be just shuffled minimal techno at 140, other is like Grime composed to be a tune rather than a beat, other is like chopped up to sound shuffly breakbeat kinda stuff, also some is now sounding almost like detroit soul and synthesiser kinda stuff

openess is its key and thats why it will be seen as a big shift.

Posted: Mon Aug 25, 2008 12:04 pm
by promo
Joe C wrote:whats more exciting is dubsteps openess to merging with other genres due to its very unstrict structure.

some dubstep can be just shuffled minimal techno at 140, other is like Grime composed to be a tune rather than a beat, other is like chopped up to sound shuffly breakbeat kinda stuff, also some is now sounding almost like detroit soul and synthesiser kinda stuff

openess is its key and thats why it will be seen as a big shift.
Good comments. I'd agree with most of that pretty much.

Posted: Mon Aug 25, 2008 12:08 pm
by shreddyde
predicting the future is almost impossible regarding music

Posted: Mon Aug 25, 2008 2:06 pm
by sigha
Joe C wrote:whats more exciting is dubsteps openess to merging with other genres due to its very unstrict structure.

some dubstep can be just shuffled minimal techno at 140, other is like Grime composed to be a tune rather than a beat, other is like chopped up to sound shuffly breakbeat kinda stuff, also some is now sounding almost like detroit soul and synthesiser kinda stuff

openess is its key and thats why it will be seen as a big shift.
This

Re: Is dubstep the last major shift in dance music?

Posted: Mon Aug 25, 2008 2:09 pm
by dub boy
Promo wrote: So is this the last seriously major shift in dance music?
LOL

Are you serious?! :lol: :lol:

Music (be it dance or whatever) will always experience major shifts.... the big wheel never stops turning so to speak.

Posted: Mon Aug 25, 2008 3:49 pm
by incyde
yup, dubstep is it. this is the final frontier! no other strain of music shall ever be made EVER!!! god forbid experimentation!

Posted: Mon Aug 25, 2008 8:23 pm
by synthactica records
slow down a 170bpm dnb track to its half 85 bpm - what you get is dubstep (ok, there is no pitch correction).
double the speed of a 90bpm dubstep track - what you get is dnb (ok, there is no pitch correction). the structure is the same. vice versa.

if you look at the electronic music genre evolution at the moment the most exiting things happen in Dubstep.

there will be time when Dubstep will burn out just like dnb.

Posted: Mon Aug 25, 2008 8:27 pm
by benjybars
Joe C wrote:whats more exciting is dubsteps openess to merging with other genres due to its very unstrict structure.

some dubstep can be just shuffled minimal techno at 140, other is like Grime composed to be a tune rather than a beat, other is like chopped up to sound shuffly breakbeat kinda stuff, also some is now sounding almost like detroit soul and synthesiser kinda stuff

openess is its key and thats why it will be seen as a big shift.
yep

Posted: Mon Aug 25, 2008 8:37 pm
by promo
Synthactica Records wrote:if you look at the electronic music genre evolution at the moment the most exiting things happen in Dubstep.
Exactly. Revolutions of this magnitude simply don't come about every 5 secs. People need appreciate that.

Re: Is dubstep the last major shift in dance music?

Posted: Mon Aug 25, 2008 8:45 pm
by promo
Dub boy wrote:
Promo wrote: So is this the last seriously major shift in dance music?
LOL

Are you serious?! :lol: :lol:

Music (be it dance or whatever) will always experience major shifts.... the big wheel never stops turning so to speak.
Yeah, I damn well hope so but can the same be said in 20/30 or even 100 years time?

Re: Is dubstep the last major shift in dance music?

Posted: Mon Aug 25, 2008 8:59 pm
by kuma
Promo wrote:
Dub boy wrote:
Promo wrote: So is this the last seriously major shift in dance music?
LOL

Are you serious?! :lol: :lol:

Music (be it dance or whatever) will always experience major shifts.... the big wheel never stops turning so to speak.
Yeah, I damn well hope so but can the same be said in 20/30 or even 100 years time?
From musique concrete through to acid house and onto modern sound system culture, nobody was looking 20/30 years down the road.

There will always be shifts as things mutate, people experiment and previous unaffordable technology lands in brand new hands.

Posted: Mon Aug 25, 2008 9:05 pm
by joe muggs
shreddyde wrote:predicting the future is almost impossible regarding music

Posted: Tue Aug 26, 2008 12:46 am
by abZ
shreddyde wrote:predicting the future is almost impossible regarding music
Not really IMO. There are certain patterns. You can make predictions and sometimes they come true, sometimes not. With the subject that was raised here I am predicting a sort of "post genre" phase for electronic music. In that scenario Dubstep could very well be the last great genre. Even the way it has grown is kind of a throwback to young genres in the 90's. But I think dubstep has longevity because of the fact that the rules are not strictly written therefore it will go hand in hand with the "post genre" edm.

Posted: Tue Aug 26, 2008 12:49 am
by claw
ranchero is the future of dance music

Posted: Tue Aug 26, 2008 12:51 am
by abZ
claw wrote:ranchero is the future of dance music
Image

???

TBH I am more of an El Camino kind of guy.

Posted: Tue Aug 26, 2008 1:42 am
by eshscramble
Synthactica Records wrote:slow down a 170bpm dnb track to its half 85 bpm - what you get is dubstep (ok, there is no pitch correction).
double the speed of a 90bpm dubstep track - what you get is dnb (ok, there is no pitch correction). the structure is the same. vice versa.

if you look at the electronic music genre evolution at the moment the most exiting things happen in Dubstep.

there will be time when Dubstep will burn out just like dnb.
and all this time my dubstep tracks have been around 140... does that mean it's gonna implode? :lol: