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Moldover's approach to live rearranging, mashing up, etcetc
Posted: Mon Sep 22, 2008 10:29 am
by cixxxj
Get your head here
http://www.youtube.com/user/moldover
I personally don't agree on something, but the guy is rather imaginative and has a great approach to define a controller. The most interesting thing I saw he uses one controller to control much things. I don't know how to explain well this topic but videos are good at it
Posted: Mon Sep 22, 2008 10:49 am
by pdomino
Going to check out at dinner, thanks.
Posted: Mon Sep 22, 2008 8:58 pm
by legend4ry
Thought they was quite interesting
Posted: Mon Sep 22, 2008 9:09 pm
by spencertron
The reaktor patch he uses is the same we use live (Clists BLU), although ours is butchered up and purely for dub mashup purposes after about a year of tweaking
. So it's a similar approach to our shows (but he's the king of this and using his controllers better...)
Edit: actually Tim Exile had this style in the bag a while ago too
Posted: Tue Sep 23, 2008 4:47 am
by unilynx
moldover is simply amazing and anyway who fails to see that is an idiot
Posted: Tue Sep 23, 2008 5:04 am
by black lotus
kid 606 was doing this at least 10 years ago. moldover does it pretty well it seems, although i heard some sampled squarepusher in there and a lot of cheesy breaks.
i miss idm
see also: daedelus, phthalocyanine, hrvatski, anyone with basic to intermediate reaktor/modular software knowledge.
also, audiomulch for OSX in the future! rejoice!
Posted: Tue Sep 23, 2008 5:31 pm
by darkmatteruk
spencerTron wrote:actually Tim Exile had this style in the bag a while ago too
ive got a fair bit of exiles stuff, guys a legend
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Posted: Tue Sep 23, 2008 11:27 pm
by thesynthesist
Matt and I went to school together, played in bands together, and have been trading patches for awhile.
His style is vastly different from Exile or most other glitch artists, hes doing mostly remashing in this setup. You would likely hear those artists mixed with Ella Fitzgerald or something. But I urge you guys to see him live, because his performance is really something to behold. Makes Girltalk (who I hate regardless) look like, well, girl music.
Posted: Wed Sep 24, 2008 1:40 am
by black lotus
thesynthesist wrote:Matt and I went to school together, played in bands together, and have been trading patches for awhile.
His style is vastly different from Exile or most other glitch artists, hes doing mostly remashing in this setup. You would likely hear those artists mixed with Ella Fitzgerald or something. But I urge you guys to see him live, because his performance is really something to behold. Makes Girltalk (who I hate regardless) look like, well, girl music.
as long as he doesn't play those boring breaks through whatever stuttering glitch patch he invented, it could be interesting. edIT is what happened when glitch got played out. (no offense to edIT himself... just saying, he kinda missed the boat there..)
and i would totally see him live as long as he isn't one of those $15-$20+ per head fools.. i payed $7 to see kid606 in 2001 and that was pinnacle.
Posted: Wed Sep 24, 2008 4:42 am
by Fakawi
yes! man has skills, very innovative, also intersting to watch, learnt a few things myself...
Posted: Thu Sep 25, 2008 11:20 pm
by thesynthesist
Haha, Ed's a friend too... Edit did something pretty different with glitch, take it or leave it. You are talking about a culture gap here.
Moldover is an east coaster, a guitarist originally. Edit is from the west coast (LA), and is a party rocker. He comes to play and plays to win. And his sound is aiming at a different target completely. Kid 606 (San Fran) is of a completely different variety.
All these guys are basically the luminaries of their particular sounds, but those sounds exceed a simple definition of "Glitch". The mix, the focus, the sound are really pretty different, regardless if they use similar tools. But surprisingly they all happen to appeal to an audience that I'm sure you can appreciate: Hot girls.
Posted: Thu Sep 25, 2008 11:42 pm
by black lotus
thesynthesist wrote:Haha, Ed's a friend too... Edit did something pretty different with glitch, take it or leave it. You are talking about a culture gap here.
Moldover is an east coaster, a guitarist originally. Edit is from the west coast (LA), and is a party rocker. He comes to play and plays to win. And his sound is aiming at a different target completely. Kid 606 (San Fran) is of a completely different variety.
All these guys are basically the luminaries of their particular sounds, but those sounds exceed a simple definition of "Glitch". The mix, the focus, the sound are really pretty different, regardless if they use similar tools. But surprisingly they all happen to appeal to an audience that I'm sure you can appreciate: Hot girls.
oh ok, i see where you're rollin now. you know baseck and all the LA dudes. that's cool.. i know a bunch of those dudes, rather i've hung out with/partied with them a few times. i definitely wouldn't say there are vast differences like you seem to feel there are. the processing is the same, the input is different. that's pretty much all there is to it, imo. i've build all the same kinds of contraptions in reaktor and other apps that chew up audio.. and hey, if you keep them BPM locked you don't even have to put any effort into it! the application will snap it all into place for you, like ed's crunkmaster.
i'm only half kidding. i like vaginas too, and don't mind turning knobs on a glitching machine to impress.
Posted: Fri Sep 26, 2008 3:41 pm
by thesynthesist
Well, see, this is a good example of why discussing these guys techniques is important. Moldover's patch doesnt time correct anything. Its purely a live performance patch, unlike a lot of other glitch artists. He's got a bit more of an interest in that, coming from a live instrument. And frankly its far more real feeling. Id rather see a few performances with his setup than, say, Edits, which will largely sound more polished.
But Baseck is in a WHOLE OTHER category than the previous mentioned, I mean that dude can do anything over the course of a set. Hes far more Grindcore influenced, and usually makes that known...
Posted: Fri Sep 26, 2008 4:15 pm
by black lotus
thesynthesist wrote:Well, see, this is a good example of why discussing these guys techniques is important. Moldover's patch doesnt time correct anything. Its purely a live performance patch, unlike a lot of other glitch artists. He's got a bit more of an interest in that, coming from a live instrument. And frankly its far more real feeling. Id rather see a few performances with his setup than, say, Edits, which will largely sound more polished.
But Baseck is in a WHOLE OTHER category than the previous mentioned, I mean that dude can do anything over the course of a set. Hes far more Grindcore influenced, and usually makes that known...
yep i agree. i've seen derrick play with SDR and solo and he kills it every time. saw him with OVS in LA and they just tore the place up.
either way, i'm pretty much completely over glitch, in general. for me it stopped being interesting in 2005. i still do some idm/glitch type music, but it's a design element rather than the focal point. and i sure as fuck don't rely on an application or plugin to do all my design.. i like editing by hand.
Posted: Fri Sep 26, 2008 4:36 pm
by thesynthesist
black lotus wrote:i like editing by hand.
Well, even after the Cotton Gin was invented, I'm sure some people still did it by hand...
Posted: Fri Sep 26, 2008 4:59 pm
by black lotus
thesynthesist wrote:black lotus wrote:i like editing by hand.
Well, even after the Cotton Gin was invented, I'm sure some people still did it by hand...
unfortunately making art is a bit different from mass producing cotton. devil is in the details.
Posted: Fri Sep 26, 2008 5:35 pm
by thesynthesist
depends on what you are working on, innit?