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Inserts, Sends & Busses explained.
Posted: Tue Sep 23, 2008 8:36 pm
by futures_untold
Normal Signal Flow in a DAW:
Setting up an Insert Effect in a DAW:
Setting up a Send loop in a DAW:
Creating Send Loops using Auxillery Send & Return Controls Explained Further:
Normally mixers have Auxillary Send and Return sockets, each with their own controls.
Using both Inserts and Sends in a DAW:
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To answer Serox's questions...
Serox wrote:Can someone tell me how I can set up a bus in Reason? Reason does not have busses. I tried to do the same thing using the small mixer but couldnt get it working!
Cheers.
Easy!
Creating a Bus in Reason:
Here I have created a drums bus.
Using the Malstrom as an Insert effect:
Futures_Untold wrote:-Explore using the Malstrom and the Thor as an insert filter, much like the ECF/Scream/EQ's.
Using both Insert and Send effects to achieve badass basslines!:
Futures_Untold wrote:-Explore applying the Scream 4 distortion device as an insert, then a send, then both at the same time. Stack your Scream4 units. (Mal--->Scream 4--->Scream 4---->Linemixer---->Send to Scream 4---->Scream 4----->Insert output of line mixer into a Scream 4---->ECF Filter.)
This same setup can be achieved in any DAW which allows both insert and send effects configurations. (Most of them including Cubase, Logic, Pro Tools, FL Studio, Sonar, Digital Producer, Audition, Samplitude etc etc)
Happy days!

Posted: Tue Sep 23, 2008 8:46 pm
by FSTZ1
the first thing you learn in recording arts (should any of you ever find yourself wanting to take classes) is called:
THE SOUNDCHAIN
input / output
it's alot different in the digital world, because most programs (with the exception of Reason and a few others) don't have physical modeling for your ins & outs
but yeah
input / output
buss / send
mantra
Posted: Tue Sep 23, 2008 8:47 pm
by DZA
Posted: Tue Sep 23, 2008 8:51 pm
by futures_untold
FSTZ wrote:the first thing you learn in recording arts (should any of you ever find yourself wanting to take classes) is called:
THE SOUNDCHAIN
input / output
it's alot different in the digital world, because most programs (with the exception of Reason and a few others) don't have physical modeling for your ins & outs
but yeah
input / output
buss / send
mantra
Yup, Reason is a good program to use because you can actually see what your doing, unlike other DAW's like Cubase & FL Studio etc....
I've taught people how to set up real studio gear using Reason as an example tool!
Shout out to Propellerheads for making this program in the first place!

Posted: Tue Sep 23, 2008 8:57 pm
by FSTZ1
yeah
you just have to pretend the cables exist in most DAW's
took a while for me to get beyond that (in the late 90's)
Posted: Tue Sep 23, 2008 9:03 pm
by futures_untold
FSTZ wrote:You just have to pretend the cables exist in most DAW's.
This is why most DAW's are a bitch to learn lol!
No names mentioned of course... -:cough cough cubase ahem:-

Posted: Tue Sep 23, 2008 9:17 pm
by d-T-r
very well put. i know its not an option for everyone but learning on real mixers with real hardware makes it alot easier i think. auxileries were confusing.
edit: i dont actually have my own mixer,ourboard processors,fx etc just learnt on one.
Posted: Tue Sep 23, 2008 10:12 pm
by Sharmaji
don't forget returns! at least in logic, having busses send to aux returns is a really powerful way to process audio.
Re: Inserts, Sends & Busses explained.
Posted: Wed Sep 24, 2008 12:04 am
by whineo
futures_untold wrote:Normal Signal Flow in a DAW:
Setting up an Insert Effect in a DAW:
Setting up a Send loop in a DAW:
Using both Inserts and Sends in a DAW:
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DAW = digital audio workstation
Reason is not a DAW
Re: Inserts, Sends & Busses explained.
Posted: Wed Sep 24, 2008 12:56 am
by slothrop
Whineo wrote:futures_untold wrote:Normal Signal Flow in a DAW:
Setting up an Insert Effect in a DAW:
Setting up a Send loop in a DAW:
Using both Inserts and Sends in a DAW:
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DAW = digital audio workstation
Reason is not a DAW
Also that's just a picture, not a DAW.
I want my money back.
Posted: Wed Sep 24, 2008 1:08 am
by futures_untold
Yup your right

--->
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digital_Audio_Workstation
But my initial point is simply that the signal path in many DAW's function much as demonstrated by the pictures (which just so happen to use Reason).............!
I'll change it to say something more appropriate when I get home from work again.
Posted: Wed Sep 24, 2008 8:04 am
by serox
Thanks a lot futures_untold!
I have printed all this out and will copy everything when I get home. Cant wait to check out the 2nd two setups!

Re: Inserts, Sends & Busses explained.
Posted: Mon Dec 07, 2009 8:31 pm
by skyh
This thread is golden! What's the larger picture though? I feel like all of this info is very important but I do not know HOW it is important.
Re: Inserts, Sends & Busses explained.
Posted: Mon Dec 07, 2009 8:45 pm
by suicidesound
How comes reason is not considered a DAW?
Re: Inserts, Sends & Busses explained.
Posted: Mon Dec 07, 2009 8:55 pm
by FSTZ
mainly due to the fact that there is no audio track playback / record
Re: Inserts, Sends & Busses explained.
Posted: Thu Jan 21, 2010 6:33 pm
by Rowdy
I just hooked up a bunch of scream filters like in the last image and literally created the most disgusting sound I've ever heard in my life.
I'm shaking it was that intense.
Re: Inserts, Sends & Busses explained.
Posted: Thu Jan 21, 2010 6:42 pm
by darkmatteruk
dont recall seeing this before, big ups pat
Re: Inserts, Sends & Busses explained.
Posted: Thu Jan 21, 2010 6:48 pm
by Freshman
Yeah nice post, sums it up quite well.
should've read this 2 weeks ago!

Re: Inserts, Sends & Busses explained.
Posted: Thu Jan 21, 2010 7:06 pm
by bum robot
is this in the production bible yet?
Re: Inserts, Sends & Busses explained.
Posted: Thu Jan 21, 2010 8:43 pm
by JFK
Rowdy wrote:I just hooked up a bunch of scream filters like in the last image and literally created the most disgusting sound I've ever heard in my life.
I'm shaking it was that intense.
