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I am a young man. haven't had much exposure to drugs, especially not class A's.
in my science lesson at school recently we saw a video about a girl who took ecstasy and drank too much water as her kidneys weren't functioning properly. she died within 2 hours of taking it from a 'water' overdose or something.
This video Freaked out a lot of people in my class, and put them off trying it, but i'm still not sure.

it can't be that bad can it? surely the video exaggerated it a bit?

also i have heard that come down is so fucking bad that it doesnt make it worth it?

you can tell you've had the good stuff (cut with heroin) if your comedown is pretty tough. Really, it was my favorite drug, but that was a long time ago, and thats probably why i did it so little...

I've heard the "water overdose" story as well. im sure it's happened once, somewhere, but thats like an urban legend.

you will get attempted drugs by those who just come to sell drugs and leave when their not there for the music. Ectasy is a very bad drug. trust. i've had the experience of taking E and hated every min of it.

DON'T DO DRUGS. plain n simp.

e + alcohol will lead to dehydration...which isnt good if your dancing in a club/rave. i think this is where most people get too detached. the alcohol will also add a hangover to your comedown which isnt nice.

e + water is fine just make sure you dont drink too much obviously. it makes you quite a bit hotter which makes you think you need to drink more to stay cool. i think its something like no more than 1 pint of water an hour your sposed to have.

your gonna end up trying it one day so just start with maybe just 1 pill and see how you go. if its mdma powder its a dif story. easy to think you havnt took enough early on.

the comedowns vary i guess. just ensure you make it as soft as possible with enough high energy food and drink. maybe a few joints to fade.

dont take the school/media propaganda too seriously. obviously there is always dangers involved but they tend to only highlight the worst cases so its abit biased.

http://www.erowid.org/chemicals/mdma/mdma.shtml

I also saw a video in...er, science class that said Ecstasy was nearly 20-fold times safer than Alcohol - Ecstasy being the 20th most dangerous drug and alcohol being the third (or something).

Thing is, one bird, one stupid bird who drank around 10 liters of water in a short amount of time WHICH WOULD PROBABLY KILL YOU ANYWAY, REGARDLESS OF WHETHER YOU'D TAKEN ANYTHING OR NOT is used as a figurehead of negativity, but you only have to step outside your front door on a Saturday night to see the abysmal effects of alcohol.

It's probably not a good idea to discuss this on here anyway, I imagine this thread will be deleted soon.

drksteppa wrote:you will get attempted drugs by those who just come to sell drugs and leave when their not there for the music. Ectasy is a very bad drug. trust. i've had the experience of taking E and hated every min of it.

DON'T DO DRUGS. plain n simp.

YES! IF YOU TAKE DRUGS YOU WILL END UP CONSTRUCTING SENTENCES AS ILLEGIBLE AS THOSE. YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED.

leah betts died because she & her friends hadn't been taught what to do when things took a bad turn. the (irresponsible) information on ecstacy at the time just emphasised the need to 'drink plenty of water', when what she should have been doing was sipping orange juice or something similar. it was tragic but it was a case of lack of education about the drug killing her rather than the drug itself. the resultant media storm and the police witchhunt to find the dealer & charge them with manslaughter was fucking outrageous

i'd suggest giving it a go, but try and get mdma instead if you can. better value for money and less speed so you won't be running around like a twat. i wouldn't suggest taking either md or pills regularly though because the positive effect will lessen and the comedown will get worse and worse.

it's good fun though!

oh and whatever you do keep your fucking shirt on in the dance

pk- wrote:oh and whatever you do keep your fucking shirt on in the dance

I always leave a top on, even though I sweat like a motherfucker when I'm not taking E. I hate it when I bump into someone at a rave with their top off and their juices spill all over me. Er.

Ask Dubluke...

LEQ wrote:Ask Dubluke...

haha, all i was going to say has pretty much been said by dtruk and pk!!

in terms of the water thing, my general rule (which has never failed me) is just to buy one of those 500ml bottles of water, and make sure to drink about one of them per hour of raving, but don't go above that i'd say. go outside for a cig or just to chill every now and then as well, so your body temperature doesn't get too high.

if you're taking at it home/at a party or whatever, just try not to drink more than a standard size glass of water every hour or so. and in both settings try to sip the water gradually over the time, rather than taking massive gulps at once.

comedowns are helped by bananas, they boost up your serotonin and potassium levels pretty quickly which helps, a few joints to smoke is quite nice as well. make sure you don't have much to do the day after taking lots of MD/pills though, as you probably won't get it done .

have fun!

And prepare for a sleepless night.

Also, don't be fucking conscious about it. I hate it when stnuc are like "URGR, I CAN'T FEEL IT, CAN YOU? IS IT WORKING?" then a bit later "IS IT WORKING YET?" and then a bit later "IS IT WORKING YET? IS IT WORKING? IS IT WORKING?"

FUCK OFF.


Seriously, you don't even need to do anything amazing when you're on it. Fuck, play Tiger Woods on your Wii, go for a walk, just don't worry. Worrying is the fucking gayest.

Mr Hyde wrote:Comedowns can be a bit shitty, but not generally worse than a bad hangover- smoking after party sessions are usually a much better laugh than a hangover!

this!! comedowns can be a lot better when jamming with your mates, stick a funny film on, run some nice tunes, smoke some weed and generally chat a lot of shit - s'always a laugh!

Dead Rats wrote: Seriously, you don't even need to do anything amazing when you're on it. Fuck, play Tiger Woods on your Wii, go for a walk, just don't worry. Worrying is the fucking gayest.

+1

shadow.system wrote:

Dead Rats wrote: Seriously, you don't even need to do anything amazing when you're on it. Fuck, play Tiger Woods on your Wii, go for a walk, just don't worry. Worrying is the fucking gayest.

+1

HEY! I saw the thing you deleted, why'd you delete it? It was a beautiful story, I CRIED.

If your going to have one only take half, see how things go....and DO NOT swig litres and litres water, like PK said sip it. Your only trying to replace your waters, not create a reservoir in your estomach.

Chewing gum and lollypops are your best friend lol.

couldnt be arsed reading all posts, so this might already have been said,
moderation init.

myself and most people i know didnt get a come down till the 3rd or 4th time!!!!!

pdomino wrote:If your going to have one only take half, see how things go....and DO NOT swig litres and litres water, like PK said sip it. Your only trying to replace your waters, not create a reservoir in your estomach.

Chewing gum and lollypops and everyone else on the planet are your best friend lol.

Fixed!

BEN? wrote:I am a young man. haven't had much exposure to drugs, especially not class A's.
in my science lesson at school recently we saw a video about a girl who took ecstasy and drank too much water as her kidneys weren't functioning properly. she died within 2 hours of taking it from a 'water' overdose or something.
This video Freaked out a lot of people in my class, and put them off trying it, but i'm still not sure.

it can't be that bad can it? surely the video exaggerated it a bit?

also i have heard that come down is so fucking bad that it doesnt make it worth it?

first off, putting too much of anything in to your body is a bad thing. this includes water.
the girl in that video was probably about leah betts, who passed away in 1995. a sad story not made any better by the press. apperently she drank around 7 liters in 90 minutes.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leah_Betts

secondly, if you do decide to try it. make sure YOU decide to try it.
be carefully and have fun. i have had some off the best nights of my life on e.

btw, for me a bad hangover is way worse than coming down...