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Posted: **Tue Oct 14, 2008 10:43 am**

Have any of my fellow ninjas smoked Salvia before and how was your experience.

For those that may not know Salvia is a plant which when dried and smoked brings on hullucinogenic and psychedelic effects. It is legally sold in head shops around the UK.

I tried some x20 at the weekend and can only describe my experience as what i believe to be a mixture of a mental breakdown and the feeling of death.

As soon as i had taken it i began to feel as though a pleasant warm goo-like feeling was rising from my feet and was engulfing my whole body. I started to get a pressing feeling in my brain which was causing me to lean to one side, my teeth felt like they were crumbling and i was laughing hysterically...and then it hit me.

My vision started spazzing out in a major way. Everything i tried to look at seemed to be jumping about multiplying tenfold and getting sucked into the corner of the room. Since I had completely forgot what i had just taken i thought i was in the process of a breakdown. For what seemed like forever it got worse, a whole lot worse. Apparently i started whilin out big time and shouting all sorts of randomness.

Despite all this im actually very curious to try it again as i hear you can have some very pleasant eye-opening experiences. Am i mad...

So how was your experience???

Posted: **Tue Oct 14, 2008 10:49 am**

haha dubstep forum has a really high number of random ''i did salvia last night and it fucked me up'' threads

its not a fun drug believe me. i've smoked it about 10 times and it doesn't get any less confusing/fucked up/dangerous

the experiences that you had WERE the eye-opening ones people talk about.

Posted: **Tue Oct 14, 2008 10:55 am**

I smoked it, drank some coke to get rid of the taste and felt the taste of the coke in my left leg, but 2 weeks ago... fucking weird drug....

I think I could handle it if it wasnt for the taste. It tastes like spikes and it makes your whole body feel like spikes as well....

its not a fun drug believe me. i've smoked it about 10 times and it doesn't get any less confusing/fucked up/dangerous

Every time I do this I instantly realise it was a mistake

Posted: **Tue Oct 14, 2008 10:58 am**

I melted into my sofa after a couple of bongs of the 10X it was pretty heavy but over quite fast. Smoked some DMT at the weekend thought it was quite similar (all of the above with a NOS type headache).

Posted: **Tue Oct 14, 2008 11:00 am**

This thread instantly reminds me and makes me miss magic mushrooms. Fucking governmental twat based wankers!

Posted: **Tue Oct 14, 2008 11:07 am**

lol you felt the taste of coke in your left leg??
how is that possible?

The only reason salvia is still legal is because no one can really use it as a recreational drug, its kinda like weeds evil twin

Posted: **Tue Oct 14, 2008 11:12 am**

After my experience i still really cant see how they can justify the legal sale of this stuff. Ive had nothing but good experiences with mushies and they ban the sale of them yet Salvia remains legal.

Still, it should prove to be a bit of fun when i introduce a few unsuspecting friends to it. Bong anyone???

Posted: **Tue Oct 14, 2008 11:13 am**

Hysteria wrote:lol you felt the taste of coke in your left leg??
how is that possible?

The only reason salvia is still legal is because no one can really use it as a recreational drug, its kinda like weeds evil twin

There is that and not enough people are taking it. The moment it reaches a certain point it will be banned. The fact that its actually so harsh may go in its favour.

As for the cola thing I dont know. Its something that has stuck with me for sure. Maybe it was subliminal advertising?

Posted: **Tue Oct 14, 2008 11:14 am**

Tomity wrote:Maybe it was subliminal advertising?

LOL at that...brand power eh....

Posted: **Tue Oct 14, 2008 11:40 am**

FAUST.DTC wrote:After my experience i still really cant see how they can justify the legal sale of this stuff. Ive had nothing but good experiences with mushies and they ban the sale of them yet Salvia remains legal.

Its just because it isnt widely used enough. The only reason they make things illegal is so that they have that power over whoever is addicted to it or who just enjoys it. If for some strange reason weed was only smoked by 100 people in the uk it would be legal for sure.

Posted: **Tue Oct 14, 2008 12:07 pm**

The 2 times i've tried salvia are my 2 worst experiances on drugs. The second time i tried it i was sat near some sand and i suddenly felt like i was covered in sand while i sat there dribbling and feeling like gravity had got 100000000x stronger and was going to push me through the floor. Coming back to reality was very nice after that.

Posted: **Tue Oct 14, 2008 12:46 pm**

Leaves a harsh burn at the back of my throat for ages, proper dryness.

First time I done it from a bong, and I erupted into a fit of laughter for about a minute. Every other time has been through spliffs, which is nice if I'm honest, if gives you a sway-ey, swirl-ey kind of motion.

Posted: **Tue Oct 14, 2008 2:04 pm**

FAUST.DTC wrote:feeling of death.

This is why I don't fuck around with stupidness like this.

If you want to get fucked try two cans of strongbow super while smoking a big spliff. It's over mate. OVER......

Posted: **Tue Oct 14, 2008 2:06 pm**

I Smoked 20x & 40x with my mate and he said he was tripping balls. I just felt uncomfortable.

Posted: **Tue Oct 14, 2008 5:34 pm**

Posted: **Tue Oct 14, 2008 7:55 pm**

dTruk wrote:wow...

had a really fucked up salvia trip yesterday...quite dissapointed as its the first time i reeeeaaaaaalllly didnt enjoy it.

same 40x as before and i must have put quite a lot in the bong-- by the 2nd 20 second hit i could feel myself feeling funny--by the fourth i was completely somewhere else...

thats one of the only down sides to salvia i think when your not completely ready for it. you have no time to slip into that weird state it just grabs you and throws you in the deep end immediately.

so basically i'm laying on my bed and there's stripey green and blue curtains and the window to my left side.

only now it feels like i'm wrapped up in these curtains cos the bottom bit of them is rigght by my side...in my mind iwas basically inside the roll like when you roll a carpet.

and the other thing that made it weirder was that although i was laying down,

the X and Y axis in my mind for orientation was kinda this one combined thing.

in other words it felt like i was standing up against the bed/wall as well as laying down on it.

and cos that happend, the curtains now had this extra depth as well as height.

so now it felt like the curtians were going off into the distance and the stripes to me were imagined as crops in a feilf of some sort.

but that wasnt even the weird bit, it felt as if 'it' was telling me to go to the next room.

like really agressively wanting me to go "to the next room!!!!"

in my mind i was like "no...no...you cant be serious...you cant be seriois!"

really fucking agitated by the whole thing--

it also felt like i was on the edge of one of those kids tv programmes where the set is al themed and inflatable and they're doing challenegs and stuff...

it also felt a bit like a supermarket ( basically it feels like a million random thoughts at the same time)

anyway, this next room 'it' spoke of was through my bedroom door.

but to make matters a million times worse, above my door i've spray painted the KFC man but with my artist/tag name 'dTr' as the letters.
aswell as quite a few various street signs,exit and no smoking signs that i've gradually 'collected'

so there i am looking at this door i was being shouted at to go through, which also happens to be the body of dual headed KFC cournel.

Only the bastards really didnt want to help me. i remember being like "nah this isnt right at all, why is this!?"

to which they just didnt want to reply...they basically shook of my question as if to say, "this is your problem not mine"

and obviusly that really fucked me over. by this point i literally had no concept of where i was or what was on the otherside of my bedroom door and i was scared shitless fearing for my own saftey.

you know when you get to that stage through any drug, you've gone a bit too far.

but yeah i must have been in this 'place' for a good five minutes before the last ounce of sanity inside of me reminded me i was just tripping out.

started reassuring myself this was all bullshit then i steered the trip back into the weird but much more pleasant things.

after that it was weird, but the 'fun' kinda weird you expect...only i had the backround feeling of "ok if i do it this way, 'they'/'it' wont 'punish' me.

basically felt as if the trip was a higher authority/ teacher who would punnish me if i stept out of line.

although i've had pleasnt trips and experuiences on it before ,in all honesty, i think i went into the the trip expecting too much from it and my mindstate was probably too juvenile and child-like...so in return, this thing treated me as such and 'roughend' me up by scaring the shit out me.

lesson learned:

salvia is something you reaaaaaalllly have to wait for the right time to take. you have to be feeling perfect (i also had an empty stomach)

also, unless your surroundings are like a candy floss pillow mountain, try and find a room/place/feild where there's a minimal of visual distrations.

my downfall is that my room had all this distracting shit and it wasnt dark enough for my my sight to block it out...

next time i'll wait till it's pitch blank so i have an empty canvas to work with.

dTruk wrote:also important to remember it has its roots is shamanism and has been used for a very very long time.

its not a recrenational drug. if you use it as such you'll be disapointed one way or another. thats where most of us go wrong. use shrooms instead if you want that vibe.

used correctly, in the right surroundings, it will show you 'things' deep inside your mind and add some clarity to your self and perspective...the images wont make much sense but the 'vibe' or lesson they're teaching is communicated simply by recognizing it's presented truths...aslong as you remember it.

also a bong and a good lighter is esssential. ice cold water to cool the smoke down so you dont get the harshness in your throat.

anyone attempted K and salvia together?

Posted: **Tue Oct 14, 2008 8:15 pm**

that sounds pretty fucking epic.
put me off salvia for a while...

Posted: **Tue Oct 14, 2008 8:26 pm**

BEN? wrote:that sounds pretty fucking epic.
put me off salvia for a while...

all depends on the person as to how it goes.

if anyone feels a bit iffy or thinks they'll have a bad trip, probably best not to do it. if your calm and remain open to it without fearing what it does its fine...but again, not the best one to do for 'fun'

the trip after that was fine...i made myself a tent for my head so i had no visual distractions.

when you dream at night, you get r.e.m / rapid eye movement as your minds eye creates the visuals --salvia does the same shit if you have a dark enough room and have took enough. eyes were closed but were moving really fast. clear visuals. felt like a 1990's nickelodeon compilation for a while. then went all higher self and advisable on me in abstract ways.

Posted: **Tue Oct 14, 2008 8:40 pm**

Well I actually have 6 grams of Salvia with me...

I tried it one time but it didn't hit me... but I used a pipe instead of a bong and I heard that you need a really good lighter to burn the herb well... and also I didn't tried the extracts, I tried the "natural" salvia

I want to try it again but I'm a little afraid because all experiences I heard were quite weird lol

Posted: **Fri Oct 17, 2008 3:09 pm**

if your afraid of it then it'll just give it more power to scare you.

bought some hawaiian baby rose seeds today

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