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You got to love public transprot in London
Posted: Wed Oct 15, 2008 11:32 am
by serox
This is quite funny really. They are just making it up as they go alone now. Oh, in other good news train fares in London are going up by 30%, again. The trains that are getting the biggest increase are the ones going to central London. They are saying its a deterrent to stop people going for the most over crowded trains. Thing is they are the most over crowded because there is no fucking other way.
GOVERNMENT officials have abolished train overcrowding by changing the definition of what constitutes overcrowding.
The Department for Transport, which has promised extra carriages, has re-written the guidelines on the acceptable number of people standing.
Formerly, it was considered acceptable to have 10 people standing for every 100 seats but under new guidelines it is all right to have 30 standing passengers per 100 seats.
Train companies will be able to pack in more passengers without their services being labelled "overcrowded".
Centro, the public transport authority in the West Midlands, has complained to the National Audit Office that the new guidelines would result in worse conditions which will force people off trains and into their cars.
The NAO agreed and has said overcrowding will get worse until the Government fulfils its pledge to introduce 1,300 extra carriages on busy routes.
To date, only 423 of the carriages have been ordered from the manufacturer and none has been delivered. A DfT spokesman said he was unable to give details of when they would arrive but that they should be in place by 2014.
At the same time, train fares are rising to deter passengers from travelling on the most crowded trains. A spokesman for the NAO said: "Most passengers can expect to pay higher regulated and unregulated fares in the future."
Posted: Wed Oct 15, 2008 11:35 am
by ashley
Hopefully my oyster will stay the same..
£159 a month is a fucking rip off for 1 stop on the train twice a day.
Posted: Wed Oct 15, 2008 11:36 am
by LEQ
Where are you going from to spend that? Croydon to where?
Re: You got to love public transprot in London
Posted: Wed Oct 15, 2008 11:37 am
by pre-thought process
Serox wrote:This is quite funny really. They are just making it up as they go alone now. Oh, in other good news train fares in London are going up by 30%, again. The trains that are getting the biggest increase are the ones going to central London. They are saying its a deterrent to stop people going for the most over crowded trains. Thing is they are the most over crowded because there is no fucking other way.
GOVERNMENT officials have abolished train overcrowding by changing the definition of what constitutes overcrowding.
The Department for Transport, which has promised extra carriages, has re-written the guidelines on the acceptable number of people standing.
Formerly, it was considered acceptable to have 10 people standing for every 100 seats but under new guidelines it is all right to have 30 standing passengers per 100 seats.
Train companies will be able to pack in more passengers without their services being labelled "overcrowded".
Centro, the public transport authority in the West Midlands, has complained to the National Audit Office that the new guidelines would result in worse conditions which will force people off trains and into their cars.
The NAO agreed and has said overcrowding will get worse until the Government fulfils its pledge to introduce 1,300 extra carriages on busy routes.
To date, only 423 of the carriages have been ordered from the manufacturer and none has been delivered. A DfT spokesman said he was unable to give details of when they would arrive but that they should be in place by 2014.
At the same time, train fares are rising to deter passengers from travelling on the most crowded trains. A spokesman for the NAO said: "Most passengers can expect to pay higher regulated and unregulated fares in the future."
Waste. Just wait til the Olympics
Posted: Wed Oct 15, 2008 11:38 am
by ashley
LEQ wrote:Where are you going from to spend that? Croydon to where?
London Bridge.
It's one stop unless I get the train that stops at Norwood Junction and New Cross Gate and then its 3 stops.
Posted: Wed Oct 15, 2008 11:41 am
by von
I'd rather still hate Public Transport in London, if it's all the same
Posted: Wed Oct 15, 2008 11:41 am
by serox
Ashley wrote:LEQ wrote:Where are you going from to spend that? Croydon to where?
London Bridge.
It's one stop unless I get the train that stops at Norwood Junction and New Cross Gate and then its 3 stops.
You mean East Croydon then.
Trains and Tubes in London are taking the piss. I have to get both and you would prob be sick if I told you how much it costs me.
Posted: Wed Oct 15, 2008 11:44 am
by LEQ
Weird, I did a check with a season ticket and between East Croydon and London Bridge it works out to £117.20 a month.
Posted: Wed Oct 15, 2008 11:44 am
by von
lol @ Ashley being bumped by the system.
Posted: Wed Oct 15, 2008 11:45 am
by faust.dtc
Ashley wrote:It's one stop unless I get the train that stops at Norwood Junction and New Cross Gate and then its 3 stops.
I feel your pain Ash, i got on that same train this morning and it was packed when i got on at East Croydon so you can imagine the squeeze by them time it got to London Bridge.
People were pushing on like getting to work was a matter of life and death. You know them ones where if man could move to swing his arms a fight would kick off.
And why is it always me who gets the sweaty armpit in the nose and the Ginsters pasty on the shoulder...dont you just hate the daily commute...
Posted: Wed Oct 15, 2008 11:47 am
by faust.dtc
LEQ wrote:Weird, I did a check with a season ticket and between East Croydon and London Bridge it works out to £117.20 a month.
I pay £160 a month for a travelcard on the same route. Does that include busses and tubes too coz if so i want the link mate...
Posted: Wed Oct 15, 2008 11:48 am
by LEQ
^ nope it doesn't include buses and stuff though.
Posted: Wed Oct 15, 2008 11:57 am
by Pistonsbeneath
Ashley wrote:LEQ wrote:Where are you going from to spend that? Croydon to where?
London Bridge.
It's one stop unless I get the train that stops at Norwood Junction and New Cross Gate and then its 3 stops.
bus pass is £50 hehe
just get up a bit earlier innit
Posted: Wed Oct 15, 2008 12:10 pm
by slothrop
I'm guessing none of you moaning have ever tried using public transport somewhere in the UK other than London?
Posted: Wed Oct 15, 2008 12:13 pm
by deamonds
the day i pay 100GBP or more for public transport is the day i die...
i walk 2 work..
Posted: Wed Oct 15, 2008 12:19 pm
by serox
LEQ wrote:Weird, I did a check with a season ticket and between East Croydon and London Bridge it works out to £117.20 a month.
Yeh but it costs more if you have to get a ticket to go to work. ie rush hour:/
Posted: Wed Oct 15, 2008 12:20 pm
by serox
Slothrop wrote:I'm guessing none of you moaning have ever tried using public transport somewhere in the UK other than London?
edit. i completely read that wrong.
Posted: Wed Oct 15, 2008 12:21 pm
by deamonds
off peak & on peak
Posted: Wed Oct 15, 2008 12:24 pm
by faust.dtc
Slothrop wrote:I'm guessing none of you moaning have ever tried using public transport somewhere in the UK other than London?
Posted: Wed Oct 15, 2008 12:28 pm
by LEQ
Serox wrote:LEQ wrote:Weird, I did a check with a season ticket and between East Croydon and London Bridge it works out to £117.20 a month.
Yeh but it costs more if you have to get a ticket to go to work. ie rush hour:/
Weird, I thought it was just done on length rather than at what time of day, I get a weekly to Clapham Junction and I pay the same rate regardless of what time I travel.