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i just learned how to us breaks and chop them it has added a new dimension to my music but it kinda seams like cheating

how is it cheating? there are genres based entirely on chopped and edited breaks. whether you are using sliced hits from a break or using hits/samples from your DAW, it's all the same. if you are just taking a break and looping it, not writing edits, mangling or doing anything else to it, then yeah, it's kind of the lazy way out. slice up a break and write your own patterns out of the hits. be creative.

i am definitely am not using straight loops i am chopping them up and reordering and then adding like single slice hit for fills and things like that
but it seams to be such a simple way to add so much depth to a track so easily that it just feels like cheating

the good doctor wrote:i am definitely am not using straight loops i am chopping them up and reordering and then adding like single slice hit for fills and things like that
but it seams to be such a simple way to add so much depth to a track so easily that it just feels like cheating

lol, not at all, Dubstep and all breakbeat genres that exist today started with an Amen and a beat slicer

as long as your not using pre-chopped shit from a pack

find a break and make it your own.

amen breakbeat + slicer = infinite possibilities

yeah man pete rock would knock you out if he knew you were using chopped breaks

do what you want, if your chopping breaks thas all your doing. Chop whatever you want from where ever, youl always end up making it your own anyway...

Tbh I find the idea that something "sounds great but feels like cheating because it's too easy" pretty weird. If it sounds great and doesn't make you sound predictable and generic then I'd go for it like a shot. There isn't some sort of committee giving out prizes for effort...

Slothrop wrote:Tbh I find the idea that something "sounds great but feels like cheating because it's too easy" pretty weird. If it sounds great and doesn't make you sound predictable and generic then I'd go for it like a shot. There isn't some sort of committee giving out prizes for effort...

sure there is its every dj that stand in front of the turntables and critics your whole set insted of dancing

lol

Slothrop wrote:Tbh I find the idea that something "sounds great but feels like cheating because it's too easy" pretty weird. If it sounds great and doesn't make you sound predictable and generic then I'd go for it like a shot. There isn't some sort of committee giving out prizes for effort...

true, you should enjoy making music, no matter how simple or how hard it is

just because its painstakingly long and drawn out to make certain sounds doesnt mean its better, you can make simple sounds that are just as good

no

mmmm breaks :drool:

i dont think its cheating unless you just grab a standard break, and loop it, you have to put your own twist on it somehow

i started a new tune off last night, so far has 9 chopped, layered rearranged, filtered breaks in it, not one of them is an amen though, yet lol although trying not to include one, but probably will..... or not

You wanna hear some chopped up breaks in Dubstep?

Visit my page and have a listen to Rebirth or Ragafish..

Fishy

http://www.myspace.com/smellslikefishfinger

if you feel its cheating or too easy try making your own break.

make a funk beat, create multiple samples for each drum/cymbal/hat. When you listen to a break or any beat played with a real kit each hit is slightly different e.g each hit of the hihat will have a slightly different length & velocity, even very minute changes in pitch, also play with the filters slightly for each different sample. Then use those multiple samples for your break, if quantised, turn it off an move each hit fractionally before or after where its sposed to be, this will make it sound natural, as if its been played by a real drummer, ghost hits are also very important, even if they are barely audible!
Add some compression to bring it all together, and whatever else you have lying around so long as it sounds good, Tape saturation is a good 1 to use.

export > then chop as normal, can be very satisfying when you get some quality breakage going.

The alternative for drummers is record your own, wish I had the room to set my kit up and record it I have to do it the long way sadly, but its def worth the effort imo.