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anyone else getting pissed of with the term 'IDM' being bounded about willy nilly these days, intelligent dance music what is that?

it was like when suddenly jungle became inteligent drum and bass during the nineties, it almost killed the genre.

its this desire to intellectualise dance music, which i find offensive, when the beauty of dance music is its lack of pretentions.

I have no idea what the fuck 'IDM', everytime anyone says it i get the picture of some Rammstein/NIN loving industrial rocker in my head.

All about the "Are you Stuuuupid DM?" at the moment.

:boring:

yawn yawn yawn

call me reactionary but i prefer stupid but functional dance music instead of all that convoluted stuff

Jubscarz wrote: All about the "Are you Stuuuupid DM?" at the moment.

Attaboy.

If I wanted clever I'd read books. Just a lot of prog-rock techno wank.

Some of it's alright in a prog-rock techno wank sort of way though.

You know it's over when IDMZ starts up though. It'll be rubbish...

only professors can dance to IDM

How to dance to IDM

Shonky wrote:You know it's over when IDMZ starts up though. It'll be rubbish...

Can you make up a better term for the music it represents?

The term IDM was originally used in discussions on an electronic mailing list called the IDM list, formed in August 1993 for the discussion of Rephlex Records. As interest in experimental electronic music grew, so did use of the term, which became a popular way to categorize such music.

Desire to intellectualize?

aphex twin, squarepusher (my all time favorite), bogdan rackzynski, merck records (machine drum!!!), boards of canada, venetian snares, schematic records...there so much stuff. i prefer a lot of the "drill-n-bass" stuff as well as the pretty, melodic stuff. telefon tel aviv, luke vibert (the fucking man!), otto von schirach, so much stuff!

idm is an umbrella term, kind of like downtempo. i think idm is was used as a matter of convenience to lump a bunch of artists together that had sound that didn't group with existing sounds.

it definetly has the most pretencious name for a genre that i've heard, but i loved it before i heard that name. fuck the name, listen to the music.

i reckon people trying to talk about it in the day probably wanted to avoid the word, "progressive" which would have been more descriptive but was laden with stigma or perhaps just cos it had been used already.
so they lumped for "intelligent," which fitted in nicely with the new cyber-age traditions, like smart drinks and chill out rooms and old men giving lectures in night-clubs to people on drugs chosen for their mind-altering qualities.

there was the "artificial intelligence" series of comps as well.
but most of that was more proto-trance than idm.

the desire to push forward techno and jungle and explore the new musical terrains was surely felt by some (many?) but not necessarily because they wanted their music to be "intelligent."
maybe just, less basic and more developed.
it's still about getting pleasure from sounds in a very immediate way.
surely all music involves a huge degree of intelligence anyway.

how ridiculous.
i shall use the term "progressive electro" for most of that stuff in future.

it's still pop at heart, though.

Real 'intelligent' dance music would have to respond in real-time to what the listeners/dancers are doing. Computer generated beats, artificial intelligence, motion sensers. That would be good. Or maybe surround sound that follows you around the room.

KION wrote:How to dance to IDM

Yeehaw, bust a move

yea the term idm is a load of poncy internet jargon pompus shite, not that I dont likie some of the music thats getting labled as idm its jsut the idiots coining the phrase, I think most artists dont like it either anyone who does is also an idiot.

old men giving lectures in night-clubs to people on drugs chosen for their mind-altering qualities.

what?

come on guys, its all about....

fuk pigion holes



omg that read's sooo wrong

people bent out of shape over a genre...
a made up one at that !!

Geez guys its just music, i think the idm bashing has came up on every music board about 400 times, its old.

I'll just stick to my simple minded spastic music for imbeciles, thanks you sire.

Corpsey wrote:I'll just stick to my simple minded spastic music for imbeciles, thanks you sire.

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