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I read repeatedly how essential it is that you've got good samples and that it's pretty much impossible to create any good track with bad ones. I know that there are tons of links to sample packs on this forum. But I'm just starting out to produce, therefor definitely don't really have the experience and the ear yet to properly judge whether a sample is good or bad. Would it make sense to pay for a 'commercial' sample pack? Any recommendations? Any recommendations for solid free ones?

don't pay for sample packs, design your own sounds with software synths and design your rhythms with drum sequencers (which will probably be sample based if not synthetic,) and learn to EQ sounds and mixdown tracks in a DAW, it's a process that people spend years trying to get right...

there' is a thread for freeware of useful tools, also check the production bible for useful info...

Some handsome fellow was kind enough to make a sample pack and give it out on here...there is stuff in there that you could make a whole track with but it's hardly gonna be your own production...law of probability suggests that a monkey could come up with a "better" track if it had to lay the same samples in a sequence...

Thread Link to a sample pack (first link in there don;t wok...but it's in that thread again somewhere) >>> http://www.dubstepforum.com/viewtopic.p ... ample+pack

theres no point what so ever buying samples when theres so many sample sites out there, personly i dont think theres such a thing as a bad sample its what you do with it and where you put it in ya tune thst will make it sound good

i've purchased a few sample cds/packs
main ones i couldn't do without the goldbaby tape 808 pack and vengeance essential club sounds 1 and 2
also a couple akai format vox cds

What for? Spend your life on the internet downloading rubbish low quality samples and then spend whatever is left of your life tweaking and crafting them into something actually usable.

ya looking in the wrong places then

The_Dza88 wrote:ya looking in the wrong places then

Sorry but there isn't any full free sample libraries on the net on the same level that you can download legally. There are the odd decent samples here and there but I rather get a decent sample pack and stop fucking around on the internet.

Manray, which sample packs can you recommend?

The only good sample cd's are those that are really expensive ive found.

I have bought a couple of cheap ones just to build up the collection only to find out i have most of them already or there completely rubbish.

The only decent one i bought was a loopmasters cd and that was like 30ish quid.

If you really want to get some decent samples do a bit of create digging.

I bought a loopmasters CD, it was actually quality!

All about randomly getting packs off freesounds and stuff.

google is your friend.

Serox wrote:google is your friend.

yeh, also stick this into google...?intitle:index.of? wav snare

replace snare with whatever sound sample you're after and you should get some decent resuls

andm wrote:Manray, which sample packs can you recommend?

Vengeance packs.

Some serious sounds inside those.

...that every tom dick and harry has downloaded off the internets and used in their track.

join the nearest big library to you, get loads of random CDs out free of charge, nick the best bits. you'll widen your musical horizons as well as finding interesting sounds

james fox wrote:...that every tom dick and harry has downloaded off the internets and used in their track.

join the nearest big library to you, get loads of random CDs out free of charge, nick the best bits. you'll widen your musical horizons as well as finding interesting sounds

Sampling shit from CD's doesn't make your music or yourself any cooler bro. That's not to say I haven't done it because I have, I just don't believe in making a big point of it or forcing myself to working in one particular way.

For me the end product is what counts, I don't care how I get there. I can't stand people that think they are big because they do something in a particular way, get fucked and come back when you've got some big music.

Not talking to you in particular.... just in general about people i've met like that.

manray wrote:Not talking to you in particular....

yeah i hope not.

personally i think that finding obscure samples off old records makes your tracks sound more interesting, less one dimensional, more individual, stand out from the crowd, etc. these are all things that i aspire to in my production. also i think it is healthy for producers of any genre to listen to as much other music as possible...

having said what i said above i did sample the original sleng teng vinyl...and a BBC sound effects (Doctor Who, special) vinyl...purely for cosmetic sounds though

nah dun buy sample packs, some are starting to sound good but your best of cutting a sample from someone else trak, they will sound a lot better than any pack you buy. Just make sure that any samples you do take are reworked enough to make the sound original.

james fox wrote:personally i think that finding obscure samples off old records makes your tracks sound more interesting, less one dimensional, more individual, stand out from the crowd, etc. these are all things that i aspire to in my production.

That's fine but do you see the point I'm trying to make? Far too often people stick to principles (or ideas, or just ways of doing things) because they feel they are superior/better/unique or whatever when the most important factor is the finished product. If using old samples works for great but it doesn't work for everyone and it's not some kind of magic recipe to success. Anyone that thinks they are better than anyone else because they sampled some old vinyl is a joke.

james fox wrote:also i think it is healthy for producers of any genre to listen to as much other music as possible...

Again... whatever works for you. I listen to all sorts but not everyone does and it doesn't make me or you or anyone else better because we listen to different music. I told you, end product is what counts.