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What chords?

Posted: Tue Dec 30, 2008 11:51 pm
by theedman
Does anybody know what chords Burial uses for "In Mcdonals"?

Because they are blodey lovely

Posted: Wed Dec 31, 2008 8:49 am
by apathesis
Can't figure out the actual chords but I would say,

Natural Minor, lots of 3rds and 6ths/7ths. Lots of suspension notes between chords.

The whole theme goes up and down octaves every so often.

Something like that!

Posted: Wed Dec 31, 2008 12:46 pm
by thecatinside
Apathesis wrote: Natural Minor, lots of 3rds and 6ths/7ths. Lots of suspension notes between chords.
-q-

Natural minor is a scale, not a chord. Every minor chord has a third interval, it's not an option. Chords are categorized to majors and minors depending wether the third interval is a minor or major :)

Posted: Wed Dec 31, 2008 1:22 pm
by apathesis
thecatinside wrote:
Apathesis wrote: Natural Minor, lots of 3rds and 6ths/7ths. Lots of suspension notes between chords.
-q-

Natural minor is a scale, not a chord. Every minor chord has a third interval, it's not an option. Chords are categorized to majors and minors depending wether the third interval is a minor or major :)
Lol i know, I was just saying it's in that scale, since that will help him if he's tryna work out the chords.

Posted: Fri Jan 02, 2009 8:58 pm
by silberston
thecatinside wrote:
Apathesis wrote:

Natural Minor, lots of 3rds and 6ths/7ths. Lots of suspension notes between chords.





Natural minor is a scale, not a chord. Every minor chord has a third interval, it's not an option. Chords are categorized to majors and minors depending wether the third interval is a minor or major


Lol i know, I was just saying it's in that scale, since that will help him if he's tryna work out the chords.



Not all chords are major or minor, and the natural minor be used within a chord, but yes it is a scale.

Anyway...the answer is that theyr mostly not standard chords as most people think of them- There is an F sharp below middle C, with a G sharp (octave above middle C) and another F sharp in between them. The F sharp in the middle moves around a bit, thats why it sounds nice- its dissonant with the G sharp then resolves to F natural and D sharp etc. Sometimes theres a low A sharp and a few other things goin on. Basically its the suspensions that sound nice.

Posted: Fri Jan 02, 2009 9:08 pm
by dubstepz
Silberston wrote: Sometimes theres a low A sharp and a few other things goin on. Basically ......
Don't you mean B Flat... smart ass :roll:

Posted: Fri Jan 02, 2009 9:15 pm
by silberston
same thing lol

Posted: Fri Jan 02, 2009 9:17 pm
by dubstepz
Silberston wrote:same thing lol
There is no A sharp.

Although mathematically is seems sensible, musically it is laughable.

Posted: Fri Jan 02, 2009 9:47 pm
by silberston
There is no A sharp.

Although mathematically is seems sensible, musically it is laughable.
There definately is an A sharp, its exactly the same note as B flat. Every letter name A-G in English has both a flat, sharp and natural, even though sometimes they overlap.

Posted: Fri Jan 02, 2009 9:55 pm
by dubstepz
Silberston wrote:
There is no A sharp.

Although mathematically is seems sensible, musically it is laughable.
There definately is an A sharp, its exactly the same note as B flat. Every letter name A-G in English has both a flat, sharp and natural, even though sometimes they overlap.
So where is e sharp and b sharp? F and C?

I know what your saying but the normal definition of the chromatic scale is

C, C sharp, D, D sharp or E flat, E, F, F sharp, G, G sharp, A, B Flat, B.

You can call them other names based on your explanation but it is not the normal thing to do, unless you where a classical music producer 200 years ago.

Posted: Fri Jan 02, 2009 10:03 pm
by silberston
So where is e sharp and b sharp? F and C?

I know what your saying but the normal definition of the chromatic scale is

C, C sharp, D, D sharp or E flat, E, F, F sharp, G, G sharp, A, B Flat, B.

You can call them other names based on your explanation but it is not the normal thing to do, unless you where a classical music producer 200 years ago.
Yeh e sharp and b sharp are F and C. There is no normal way to say the chromatic scale, its just however you usually define it. If you've learnt the scale as that, then to you thats what the notes are called, even though someone else might think of them differently. Like in Germany Bb is actually called B, and B is called H, its just how theyv learnt it.

Posted: Fri Jan 02, 2009 10:07 pm
by dubstepz
Silberston wrote:
So where is e sharp and b sharp? F and C?

I know what your saying but the normal definition of the chromatic scale is

C, C sharp, D, D sharp or E flat, E, F, F sharp, G, G sharp, A, B Flat, B.

You can call them other names based on your explanation but it is not the normal thing to do, unless you where a classical music producer 200 years ago.
Yeh e sharp and b sharp are F and C. There is no normal way to say the chromatic scale, its just however you usually define it. If you've learnt the scale as that, then to you thats what the notes are called, even though someone else might think of them differently. Like in Germany Bb is actually called B, and B is called H, its just how theyv learnt it.
Hmm well I suppose official definitions may say that.

But would you call F E sharp?

C = B sharp?

To me B flat = A sharp has the same ring to it.

Just not the right name for me.. sorry.. anyway moving on...



:lol:

Posted: Fri Jan 02, 2009 10:10 pm
by silberston
it doesnt really matter to be honest lol, all the guy wanted to know is what chords Burial uses, it still sounds the same

Posted: Fri Jan 02, 2009 10:13 pm
by dubstepz
Silberston wrote: it still sounds the same
But A sharp so so wrong... soooo wrong. :lol:

(yeh im bored and recovering from Wednesday night still)

Call it what you want mate.

Posted: Fri Jan 02, 2009 10:14 pm
by Disco Nutter
dubstepz wrote:
Silberston wrote:same thing lol
There is no A sharp.

Although mathematically is seems sensible, musically it is laughable.
FUCKIN LMAO!!!

Ever studied basic theory?

Posted: Fri Jan 02, 2009 10:15 pm
by apathesis
Silberston wrote: Basically its the suspensions that sound nice.
Suspensions FTW.

Posted: Fri Jan 02, 2009 10:16 pm
by apathesis
This silberston dude knows his stuff

:P:

Posted: Fri Jan 02, 2009 10:17 pm
by dubstepz
Johnny Beat wrote:
dubstepz wrote:
Silberston wrote:same thing lol
There is no A sharp.

Although mathematically is seems sensible, musically it is laughable.
FUCKIN LMAO!!!

Ever studied basic theory?
''The enharmonic equivalent B-flat minor is often used in most musical compositions instead of A-sharp minor''

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A-sharp_minor

Posted: Fri Jan 02, 2009 10:19 pm
by dubstepz
Dude, B flat is the Standard name for that first black one below C... trust me... you every studied music theory?

You can call it other names, a bit like calling Sausages Pig to me though. Correct but so wrong

Posted: Fri Jan 02, 2009 10:19 pm
by Disco Nutter
Basicly, each of the seven letters of the alphabet must be used exactly once when naming the notes of a Major scale. Sharps and flats are added to adjust the notes to the correct pitch of the scale.

The end. :)