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I kind of know what they are and all that jazz. BUT, call me an idiot, im a bit confused with busses and all that in ableton, theres these return channels but not amazingly sure what im doing (im new to most of this, and ableton)

any suggestions, tips, help or what ever takes your fancy?

thanks lol =D

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buses_and_Sends/

Sorry, couldn't resist

"the bus takes the sound to school"

anyone who wants to be helpful?

buses are group channels, generally you would route similar sounds together then process them with the same fx to make them gel. for example drums, you would create a new audio track then send all your drums to it, then add a compressor and some EQ and overdrive or whatever on the grouped sounds.

sends + returns are a way of adding the same effect to several sounds. a common use is putting a reverb on a return track and then adjusting the send on a few individual sounds, like say snare drum / some fx / vocal, whatever. saves processor power and ties the mix together. you will need to have the reverb set to 100pc wet if you do this.

well, you use a bus or a send to route multiple channels through another one, it has different purposes, such as side chaining, in which one channels dynamics effect anothers velocity in order to make it duck out when its triggered. Another way i like to use routing is in layered leads, to add compression to them all, and for my drums i am growing fond of routing all my drum tracks through a channel that applies a general reverb and compression to them all, and kind of makes them all stick together

james fox wrote:buses are group channels, generally you would route similar sounds together then process them with the same fx to make them gel. for example drums, you would create a new audio track then send all your drums to it, then add a compressor and some EQ and overdrive or whatever on the grouped sounds.

sends + returns are a way of adding the same effect to several sounds. a common use is putting a reverb on a return track and then adjusting the send on a few individual sounds, like say snare drum / some fx / vocal, whatever. saves processor power and ties the mix together. you will need to have the reverb set to 100pc wet if you do this.

Thank you very much!

DJ Vision wrote:well, you use a bus or a send to route multiple channels through another one, it has different purposes, such as side chaining, in which one channels dynamics effect anothers velocity in order to make it duck out when its triggered. Another way i like to use routing is in layered leads, to add compression to them all, and for my drums i am growing fond of routing all my drum tracks through a channel that applies a general reverb and compression to them all, and kind of makes them all stick together

cheers man, will try out soem stuff tonight

There are already 2 big topics with lots of useful information about this.

my response was very helpful

Johnny Beat wrote:There are already 2 big topics with lots of useful information about this.

true, but the on the 2 i found, one was on logic, and the other didnt say anything about ableton as far as i read, and im kinda new so i wanted to find an answer specificly for ableton, which is the reason why i asked.

FSTZ wrote:my response was very helpful

Pfft, mine was far superior, even had a bit about routemasters in there.

does flstudio only have sends? or does it have bus channels too?

caterkilla wrote:does flstudio only have sends? or does it have bus channels too?

same thing

I swear I understand the principles behind all this nonsense...but haven't a scooby how to put it to practice!

Like, "Route multiple channels through another one". The hell is a channel in reason when its at home? Like...physically

nowaysj wrote:In fl, you can send from any channel to any other channel. The only thing that you can't do, correct me if I'm wrong, is send from a send to a channel other than main out.

If you select a mixer channel, look at the master channel at the bottom, there is a little half arrowy thingie. This is the channel's patch to the master, click that little arrow thingie, turning it off, then click the arrow thingie on another track. Now your first track is routed into your second track. There are knobs that pop up when you've sent, that allow send volume.

Very flexible architecture.

thats true, i find it's better to use a normal channel as a send then you have more flexibility over what to with the send output.

I take bus to group channel therapy

cheers, nowaysj/dj vision for clearing that up

edit: just found some read for signal routing as well.