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Mastering question?
Posted: Thu Mar 05, 2009 8:50 am
by moki
Hey i'm looking to buy some software to help me with mastering, so far i'm thinkin about ozone 4 or psp vintage warmer! what would you peoples recommend??
Thanks... God bless Newfoundland!
Posted: Thu Mar 05, 2009 8:57 am
by Brisance
Macc
Posted: Thu Mar 05, 2009 9:13 am
by moki
Well as a pre macc thing for if i'm say showing songs to friends and stuff.
when I get more serious i'll send tracks to macc.
Posted: Thu Mar 05, 2009 9:20 am
by lowpass
I started using the ozone lately, really good if it is a quick fix your after, comes with loada presets which is handy too
Posted: Thu Mar 05, 2009 9:38 am
by moki
Nice! I'm lookin on the website. Looks slick as fuck.
Posted: Thu Mar 05, 2009 10:07 am
by macc
LOL @ suggesting me as software
Anyway, Ozone 4 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> PSP VW.
I wouldn't put VW anywhere near a master channel. Great for smashing drums, but er... that's it.
Presets in mastering = no.
Posted: Thu Mar 05, 2009 10:25 am
by Brisance
Macc wrote: Great for smashing drums
If you want them to be delayed half a beat or so. VW has horrible latency(at least the demo)
Posted: Thu Mar 05, 2009 11:10 am
by lowpass
Macc wrote:LOL @ suggesting me as software
Anyway, Ozone 4 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> PSP VW.
I wouldn't put VW anywhere near a master channel. Great for smashing drums, but er... that's it.
Presets in mastering = no.
I agree about the presets but if he is just using it to sparkle it up a little to show his mates then its not too bad. Looking at it this way if you have no mastering experience but you know the track sounds a little dull and too quiet theres a preset to excite and boost volume (I know not too technical) but if you dont know what your doing then it can help just to scroll through these while your playing and see which one sounds best
Posted: Thu Mar 05, 2009 12:10 pm
by macc
Brisance wrote:Macc wrote: Great for smashing drums
If you want them to be delayed half a beat or so. VW has horrible latency(at least the demo)
What sequencer are you using - doesn't it have automatic PDC? Are you using Logic Caveman Edition or something?
I agree with you to an extent Lowpass btw, but (as I am sure you know

) something slightly/much louder will virtually always be deemed to sound better. That's where the danger lies - if a preset makes it louder then great, sold, bang done. But at matched levels, that preset might not sound so good after all

Posted: Thu Mar 05, 2009 12:53 pm
by Brisance
FL 8, I remember trying the demo, adding it to a snare to phatten it and wondering, why my snares seemed to be shifted.
Posted: Thu Mar 05, 2009 12:56 pm
by martello
So, PSP VW is an excellent swing plugin

Posted: Thu Mar 05, 2009 1:20 pm
by george lenton
how do, @ macc, so your actually a mastering engineer, ? (the awe.... ha ha)
ive heard of a few people using vintage warmer to 'warm' their tracks up and that, it's not good though, ? it was actually something i wanted to try, maybe not so keen now.
i have to do my own mastering, but im always curious as what one of my tracks would sound like masterd by a proper person. what gear do you use for your mastering, ? hardware eq's and compressor's, ?
cheers

Posted: Thu Mar 05, 2009 1:30 pm
by serox
Can I just clear something up before I go away and make a mess of everything for a few months.
VM is ok on drums but nothing else?
I have got it but I dont understand exactly what I am doing with it so dont use it.
Posted: Thu Mar 05, 2009 1:38 pm
by FSTZ1
do they make the macc plugin for powercore???

Posted: Thu Mar 05, 2009 2:01 pm
by macc
I'm available as native VST, complete with condescending sarcasm and patronisation as standard.
One hell of a GUI though

Posted: Thu Mar 05, 2009 2:07 pm
by macc
George Lenton wrote:how do, @ macc, so your actually a mastering engineer, ? (the awe.... ha ha)
I'm not one of the big boys, but I make most of my living mastering these days, yes.
ive heard of a few people using vintage warmer to 'warm' their tracks up and that, it's not good though, ? it was actually something i wanted to try, maybe not so keen now.
Try it for yourself! It's not going to leave you with scars or anything

Don't take my word for itt, you might love it. Personally I find it fuzzy, a bit mushy and better as an 'effect' compressor than anything else.
Personally if someone tells me they are sending a mix with a bit of VW on it I ask for one without as well. In all the cases I can think of I have used the non-VW. Largely because the controls have such a huge range, it's very easy to overcook.
Bear in mind I ain't used it since just after VW2 came out. Too much other stuff to try out
have to do my own mastering, but im always curious as what one of my tracks would sound like masterd by a proper person. what gear do you use for your mastering, ? hardware eq's and compressor's, ?
All that bollix, yes. Or not, if it doesn't need it.
Posted: Thu Mar 05, 2009 2:08 pm
by macc
Depone wrote:
I dunno, i was just about to buy the UAD-1 Bob Macc Edition. Plenty of presets in there too!
Overrated. The original hardware is much better.
I passed 30 the other week... does that make me vintage?

Posted: Thu Mar 05, 2009 2:31 pm
by deadly_habit
Macc wrote:Depone wrote:
I dunno, i was just about to buy the UAD-1 Bob Macc Edition. Plenty of presets in there too!
Overrated. The original hardware is much better.
I passed 30 the other week... does that make me vintage?

might be hard to find replacement parts if anything breaks
Posted: Thu Mar 05, 2009 2:32 pm
by macc
That made my eyes water.