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Obama administration had refused to release the details of a secret copyright treaty because doing so would compromise "national security" Well, it turns out that there are plenty of people who are cleared to be privy to this "sensitive" document -- strangely, they all seem to work for giant copyright companies!
Of course, they're allowed to know what's in the treaty -- but the public, activist groups, consumer rights groups, and the artists whom this treaty is supposed to protect are all forbidden from knowing what it says.

What an embarrassment for an administration that holds itself out as an end to the corrupt, business-as-usual beltway fandango.

list here - http://www.boingboing.net/2009/03/14/pa ... -corp.html

that is weird, what do reckon obama/the corps benefit from that/

alien pimp wrote:What an embarrassment for an administration that holds itself out as an end to the corrupt, business-as-usual beltway fandango.l

doesn't surprise me really, you seen this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KrpRocaEfQE

haven't seen that one yet...

my guess is the copyright shit is the death of internet disguised in something that is supposed to help/proetect you, if anyone wants to bet a pint

dblpost

trplpost!
sorry, unintended

hackman wrote:
doesn't surprise me really, you seen this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KrpRocaEfQE

Just out of curiosity, do you know how directed that and to be more specific what about them make the whole thing bullshit?

I'm not going to be the Obama defender squad because I think this is monumentally retarded on his part but you should take a look at who's actually behind that "documentary" before you start believing it.

This copyright thing is retarded - definitely need to keep eyes peeled on this one. Gotta make sure the web doesn't get over corporatised.

The Obama Deception is retarded too though - if you like your conspiracy pitched at the level of a Sun reader, then it might appeal, but if you like anything with any substance/weight then it's seriously lacking. My housemate and I watched it over the weekend and giggled through a large portion of it's "evidence".

There will be enough opportunities to take down any administration by reacting to what they *do* (like this copyright shit!)... not what some people think they might be considering planning doing.

.spec wrote:

hackman wrote:
doesn't surprise me really, you seen this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KrpRocaEfQE

Just out of curiosity, do you know how directed that and to be more specific what about them make the whole thing bullshit?

I'm not going to be the Obama defender squad because I think this is monumentally retarded on his part but you should take a look at who's actually behind that "documentary" before you start believing it.

maybe, but imo if you cant see whats going on behind close doors your incredibly naive cos the evidence is staggering
im probably going to get alot of stick for that, but im only saying it because i genuinley care for the wellbeing of mankind
and i think something has to be done

check some similarities with the following story from june 2008:

Wikileaks has the full text of a memo concerning the dread Anti-Counterfeiting Trade Agreement, a draft treaty that does away with those pesky public trade-negotiations at the United Nations (with participation from citizens' groups and public interest groups) in favor of secret, closed-door meetings where entertainment industry giants get to give marching orders to governments in private.

It's some pretty crazy reading -- among other things, ACTA will outlaw P2P (even when used to share works that are legally available, like my books), and crack down on things like region-free DVD players. All of this is taking place out of the public eye, presumably with the intention of presenting it as a fait accompli just as the ink is drying on the treaty.

Honestly, it's becoming clearer and clearer that the entertainment industry is an existential threat to the idea of free speech, open tools, and an open communications network.

Who is really behind ACTA? Follow the money:

Rep. Howard Berman (D-CA)[4]

Top four campaign contributions for 2006:
Time Warner $21,000
News Corp $15,000
Sony Corp of America $14,000
Walt Disney Co $13,550

Top two Industries:
TV/Movies/Music $181,050
Lawyers/Law Firms $114,200

Other politicians listed also show significant contributions from IP industries.

that video is bullshit it criticizes obama with bush clips

toolish

while i think that's pretty smart, there's no significant difference between them apart from the fact that one reads better from the prompter. that needs to be underlined

jsilver wrote:that video is bullshit it criticizes obama with bush clips

toolish

lol

.spec wrote:

hackman wrote:
doesn't surprise me really, you seen this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KrpRocaEfQE

Just out of curiosity, do you know how directed that and to be more specific what about them make the whole thing bullshit?

I'm not going to be the Obama defender squad because I think this is monumentally retarded on his part but you should take a look at who's actually behind that "documentary" before you start believing it.

so who is actually behind it?

sick avatar btw!

he has done a load of other documentaries on conspiracy theories, on 9/11, the police state and general corruption of america...

i've only watch this obama deception one but some of it does appear to be quite convincing. although some of the 'facts' did make me laugh.

as with most conspiracy theorists he seems to force to much of an opinion and doesn't just present you with information to make your own mind up on.

the shit about the secret meeting of the bilderberg group at the marriot hotel seems pretty dense. why would they host it at a hotel full of paying clients then evacuate the hotel because of an elusive fire only to host the meeting there the next day?

surely you would just host it somewhere more private in the first place or am i missing something??

anyway a lot of the stuff in there i found to be quite believable, has anyone else checked it?

the bilderberg meetings - this is what you want to research on!
just look at the participants list (i've mentioned these before on nsf) and think where they've been pushing things lately, from google and windows (major obama sponsors) to glaxo or exxon
just see for yourself!

alien pimp wrote:the bilderberg meetings - this is what you want to research on!
just look at the participants list (i've mentioned these before on nsf) and think where they've been pushing things lately, from google and windows (major obama sponsors) to glaxo or exxon
just see for yourself!

its true there gonna rape the web
and charge us to use it

just few moths ago you would've got a shitstorm upon you for such ideas...

"The Australian communications regulator's top-secret blacklist of banned websites has been leaked on to the web and paints a harrowing picture of Australia's forthcoming internet censorship regime.

But about half of the sites on the list are not related to child porn and include a slew of online poker sites, YouTube links, regular gay and straight porn sites, Wikipedia entries, euthanasia sites, websites of fringe religions such as satanic sites, fetish sites, Christian sites, the website of a tour operator and even a Queensland dentist.

However, if the Government proceeds with its mandatory internet filtering scheme, sites on the blacklist will be blocked for all Australians. The Government has flagged plans to expand the blacklist to 10,000 sites or more."

http://www.theage.com.au/articles/2009/ ... e=fullpage

Banned hyperlinks could cost you $11,000 a day

The Australian communications regulator says it will fine people who hyperlink to sites on its blacklist, which has been further expanded to include several pages on the anonymous whistleblower site Wikileaks.

Wikileaks was added to the blacklist for publishing a leaked document containing Denmark's list of banned websites.

The move by the Australian Communications and Media Authority comes after it threatened the host of online broadband discussion forum Whirlpool last week with a $11,000-a-day fine over a link published in its forum to another page blacklisted by ACMA - an anti-abortion website.

http://www.smh.com.au/news/home/technol ... 87635.html

The internet is nowadays the ONLY reliable source of information , no matter how daft this sounds. It is reliable because EVERYBODY has almost full access to everything. That means that you can cross-examine any opinion-idea with different-opposite opinions-ideas and make up your own mind on what you believe about any issue.

It is our duty to protect it against the monsters that want to take it away from us. Anarchy in the net maybe responsible for allowing sick evil bastards like child molestors practice their craft but it also maintains the only little piece of freedom we have left.

In greece we have a thing called the "University Asylum Act" or some shit that doesn't translate that well to English. What it mainly means is that the police or the army cannot enter into university grounds anywhere in the country. It was instituted in the 70s to honour the university students who opposed and were killed by the then military dictatorship. The reason behind it was that the universities would be a safe place to harbor any new idea and protect it from those that would want to silence it i.e. any government or corporation.

Nowadays there are talks to abolish that. "Anarchists" throwing molotov cocktails at retail stores and small businesses supposedly take refuge in the universities and many people started calling for the abolishment of the asylum. Many of these "anarchists" were recently proven to be undercover policemen. But the public opinion , guided by the so-called "free media", is starting to swing the other way.

Sorry for the extra long post.
This story was added because the whole internet censorship-new global copyright law thing is very similar to my story , but worse, on a global level.

So my manifesto is this. I refuse to be musically-culturally force-fed. I refuse to be told what to believe. I refuse to copyright the music I create because if it gets stolen the thief won't be able to follow through plus I believe that after it gets out of my head it doesn't belong to me but to everyone ,if anyone, who wants to listen to it. I don't mind people sampling things I created because I have done the same for almost 15 years now. I don't care for other peoples copyrights either in any way other than the ethical.
I don't care about Metalica's or Britney's income or Skream and Benga's either. I will not steal their ideas or their work and I will buy their music if I deem it worthy to be bought.
I also don't want any of their "security" because I feel more secure with my freedom.
I will do my best to protect the internet and if we fail and the net gets fucked I will do my best to participate and defend the underground networks that will rise.

PS. On a less serious note , whatever the fuck did that aussie dentist do to earn a ban on his website?