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Help me buy a completely new setup 4 a serious beginner!!

Posted: Tue Apr 14, 2009 8:09 pm
by mountainmaxsteez
Sup all,
Im fairly new to dubstep/grime and I really want to get into making my own beats and shit. One of my buddies has slowly built up his setup and after seeing him do it, makes me really want to try my hand at it and get started on my own shit.
I've got a really good computer already (2008 Mac Pro tower)
My budget is about $1500-2000 USD for everything that I will need I hope. Im willing to spend more if it may become necessary, especially in the future, but I just want to get a real good basic setup so I can make sick beats and maybe some dubstep type shit once I figure it out.

Im not to worried about getting the best program at the moment, just want the good tools first.

I need to get a soundcard for my computer too. Im thinking about the M-Audio Audiophile 192, yea its not the best ever, but it looks like it will do the trick.
http://store.m-audio.com/us/index.cfm?p ... egoryid=88


I guess I need studio monitors. Im looking into the KRK Rocket powered 8's . I want to spend about 500$ usd on speakers and I want the best damn ones I can get that have really accurate bass.
http://pro-audio.musiciansfriend.com/pr ... sku=482827

I want to get a keyboard/midi controller/mpc
Do I really need a straight mpc?
Im thinking either the Akai MPK25 or the MPK49.
http://keyboards-midi.musiciansfriend.c ... sku=580886 or the
http://keyboards-midi.musiciansfriend.c ... ku=703034X

Im also thinking about this little toy to fuck around on
http://keyboards-midi.musiciansfriend.c ... sku=703212

Im probably going to get a mic too.

Fuck, other than that, what should i get? What else do i REALLY need?? Software controllers? What do they do? They look pretty cool.
Help me out here guys!! I can't wait to get to make some cool shit. Seeing all of your guys setups etc has gotten me inspired.

Yes, I know musicians friend may not be the cheapest place to buy from, but they are 100% legit and I know I could get good warranty replacement done by them, free shipping is a huge plus too!

Posted: Tue Apr 14, 2009 8:11 pm
by mountainmaxsteez
Yea sorry bout that folks
<--------NOOOB! :P
Anyways, heres some pics of Alpacas that I took a couple years ago in Oregon, USA. Im from Montana by the way.
Hope you enjoy my pics, I didn't realize alpacas were so big in dubstep. They are really cool animals and they make some really good yarn for knitting/clothing.

Posted: Tue Apr 14, 2009 8:15 pm
by mountainmaxsteez
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Posted: Tue Apr 14, 2009 8:16 pm
by mountainmaxsteez
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Posted: Tue Apr 14, 2009 8:17 pm
by mountainmaxsteez
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Posted: Tue Apr 14, 2009 8:17 pm
by mountainmaxsteez
Yea sorry about that.

Are the M-Series Keyboards/Midi controllers better than the Akai
For example, some of these?
http://store.m-audio.com/us/index.cfm?p ... egoryid=47

Posted: Tue Apr 14, 2009 8:25 pm
by DZA
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Posted: Tue Apr 14, 2009 9:02 pm
by mountainmaxsteez
No help yet? Hehe

Come on guys! I need to get this thing in the mail! :D

How about these monitors, they any good?
http://pro-audio.musiciansfriend.com/pr ... sku=605000

Posted: Tue Apr 14, 2009 9:13 pm
by DZA
No point in speading shit load of money if your not gonna stick to it get some demos of software first play around with them for a few weeks if you still wanna do it start spending money

:)

Posted: Tue Apr 14, 2009 9:29 pm
by miscreant

download some shit illegally using torrents
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Posted: Tue Apr 14, 2009 9:30 pm
by drokkr
spot on there dza :wink:

Posted: Wed Apr 15, 2009 12:46 am
by mountainmaxsteez
The_Dza88 wrote:No point in speading shit load of money if your not gonna stick to it get some demos of software first play around with them for a few weeks if you still wanna do it start spending money

:)
Theres no question, Im serious, I really want to get into this shit. Ive messed around with Reason and some other basic programs. In my opinion, the programs are basically all the same with their own little tricks.
I need hardware and instruments to work with. Ill just get burnt out if I just use programs and click my mouse for weeks. I just thought some people on here had some advice on what is quality equipment to get started on. Yea I know, I want to spend a grip of money, but fuck, I worked my ass off all last year and had no life and now I want to make some good investments on music gear.

Posted: Wed Apr 15, 2009 2:44 am
by osky
u can produce good tunes just on software whats the big problem, u might realise it's not for you after a while. why don't u try complete a few tunes first. i mean i'm a begginer in producing too, im not trying to act like an expert but you need to seriousily think before u started spending 2 grand

Posted: Wed Apr 15, 2009 5:47 am
by blkmsk
spend the 2 grand on a macbook pro and logic

Posted: Wed Apr 15, 2009 6:28 am
by mountainmaxsteez
blkmsk wrote:spend the 2 grand on a macbook pro and logic
I've got a Mac Pro which is better than a macbook pro. Logic you say? Hrmm Ill check it out

Hrmmm interesting, so can you use Logic to make dubstep and hip hop type shit?

Posted: Wed Apr 15, 2009 6:49 am
by drokkr
MountainMaxSteez wrote: Hrmmm interesting, so can you use Logic to make dubstep and hip hop type shit?
after that statment i think you will be wasting money thinking you "need hardware and instruments" and buying them. as mentioned before try some demos out. you have so much to learn without making it more difficult for yourself on top of learning the basics.
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Posted: Wed Apr 15, 2009 7:44 am
by drwurst
nice pics you got there :6:
but seriously

get logic (yes it makes dubstep, hiphop, and anything else)

monitors (krks just fine), soundcard (perhaps not an maudio);
and a nice, really cheap midicontroller
like korg nano, akai, or even maudio...

aaand send the rest of the money to me....:6:

Posted: Wed Apr 15, 2009 9:12 am
by DZA
just remember it aint ya hardware making the tunes, you could have a shit load of stuff but it aint gonna make you a better producer :wink:

Posted: Wed Apr 15, 2009 9:31 am
by lowpass
yeah get logic deffo, when I get my mac its the first thing im gettin

try out some demos as said before of different vsts maybe go to a few music shops and try some hardware synths out if you want to go down the expensive route,

when you get your monitors its important to learn what they sound like so make sure to a/b a lot of stuff you do at the start if your a beginner.

read up on acoustic treatment because if your studio/bedroom/whatever aint up to scratch then its gona be hard to tell what your stuff actually sounds like. I'm not on about spending huge amount on acoustic tiles but just think what can be done to absorb the sound etc

Posted: Wed Apr 15, 2009 10:14 am
by ELLFIVEDEE
can you post me some of this free money you seem to have plenty of :o



I'll send you the best set up you've ever seen in return.

HONEST! :D