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(re: skream - "traitor") -- much ado about offbeat

Posted: Wed Oct 04, 2006 11:54 am
by rekall
mate, bad bad tune this one.
but i gotta say i'm inna bit of a tizzy figuring where to drop it.

i suppose that's the point.

it would seem the obvious choice to pick out the very first hi hat as the start of the measure, but that first snare/clap after it becomes too distant if you go that route.

i'm finding what makes the most sense is to give a careful listen to the 2nd of 3 quick run of hi hats and using that as the 'one'. puts the snare in the right place but other stuff still seems out of place.

again, i suppose that's the point.

in any case, fuckin' a breakin the boundaries of strict riddim structure and going for the gusto.
BOH.

Posted: Wed Oct 04, 2006 12:02 pm
by rekall
alternatively ignoring the first big bass wibblewobble and cueing on the first bassdrum right after it (also featuring the 2nd bass bobble) works just as well.

quite a puzzle, i'm thoroughly enjoying it.

Posted: Wed Oct 04, 2006 12:22 pm
by rekall
nope it's the first biggo bass that's the "one" and the first bassdrum is the "two".

highpass filtered bits are all kinds of playing with my head as to the downbeat, upbeat.

talkin' to myself here. i've got problems, clearly :twisted:

Posted: Wed Oct 04, 2006 12:25 pm
by shonky
What the fuck are you wittering on about?

I'm fascinated to see this post, it's certainly pushing the avant-garde thread ideal. Who is Olli Jones btw?

Posted: Wed Oct 04, 2006 12:27 pm
by dub boy
Shonky wrote: Who is Olli Jones btw?
skream :wink:

Posted: Wed Oct 04, 2006 12:35 pm
by shonky
Dub boy wrote:
Shonky wrote: Who is Olli Jones btw?
skream :wink:
I'll get my coat :oops:

So this is basically a thread about where the beat comes in is it? Might be best to pop out and see some people, yeah?

Posted: Wed Oct 04, 2006 12:40 pm
by superisk
HAHA!

Posted: Wed Oct 04, 2006 1:41 pm
by dreadnought
u need a whole thread 2 work this out??????

try playin wi the tune for 5 mins


:roll:

Posted: Wed Oct 04, 2006 1:48 pm
by metalboxproducts
I think he's pissed or something. :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o .

Oh dear @ Shonkey.

Posted: Wed Oct 04, 2006 2:06 pm
by shonky
metalboxproducts wrote:I think he's pissed or something. :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o .

Oh dear @ Shonkey.
Yeah, have your little laugh, ho de ho, ahahahahaha

You quite done yet?

Sorry I don't know his real name but then seeing as I'm not a fan of his tunes doesn't really matter does it.

Fuck the lot of ya, grrrrrrrrrrrrrrr :evil:

Posted: Wed Oct 04, 2006 2:17 pm
by metalboxproducts
Shonky wrote:
metalboxproducts wrote:I think he's pissed or something. :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o .

Oh dear @ Shonkey.
Yeah, have your little laugh, ho de ho, ahahahahaha

You quite done yet?

Sorry I don't know his real name but then seeing as I'm not a fan of his tunes doesn't really matter does it.

Fuck the lot of ya, grrrrrrrrrrrrrrr :evil:
Na i was talking about the first poster being pissed.
I was laughing at you though :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Posted: Wed Oct 04, 2006 2:23 pm
by rekall
nah not pissed just wonderfully frustrated.

seriously though there are Multiple ways to work this one in if you give up your preconceived notions.
it's really quite freeform. moreso than most i've heard.

Posted: Wed Oct 04, 2006 2:27 pm
by shonky
metalboxproducts wrote:
Shonky wrote:
metalboxproducts wrote:I think he's pissed or something. :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o .

Oh dear @ Shonkey.
Yeah, have your little laugh, ho de ho, ahahahahaha

You quite done yet?

Sorry I don't know his real name but then seeing as I'm not a fan of his tunes doesn't really matter does it.

Fuck the lot of ya, grrrrrrrrrrrrrrr :evil:
Na i was talking about the first poster being pissed.
I was laughing at you though :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Sorry, I'm sure those Skream posters, and the Skream fanboy annual, and probably your Skream shrine and those rather creepy Photoshopped pictures that you tinker with featuring you and him at the poodle parlour acting like best buddies give you all the lowdown on Olly Thingy that you need to keep you informed and make you feel like you're on first name terms so that when you're standing outside his house, staring with that unnerving glint in your eye hoping to catch a glimpse, it doesn't feel quite so twisted and wrong.

But it is. Very, very wrong.

If any of the above isn't true for whatever reason do just point out the errors.

Posted: Wed Oct 04, 2006 2:29 pm
by metalboxproducts
rekall wrote:nah not pissed just wonderfully frustrated.

seriously though there are Multiple ways to work this one in if you give up your preconceived notions.
it's really quite freeform. moreso than most i've heard.
Not heard the track to be honest. Is it that free form?

Posted: Wed Oct 04, 2006 2:29 pm
by dynamixuk
Shonky wrote:
metalboxproducts wrote:I think he's pissed or something. :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o .

Oh dear @ Shonkey.
Yeah, have your little laugh, ho de ho, ahahahahaha

You quite done yet?

Sorry I don't know his real name but then seeing as I'm not a fan of his tunes doesn't really matter does it.

Fuck the lot of ya, grrrrrrrrrrrrrrr :evil:
lol sort it out..im totally new to the scene n i knew that fella :D

Posted: Wed Oct 04, 2006 2:30 pm
by rekall
i just looked up his name on discogs, cuz i wanted to know and i have nuff respect for 'im.


as for the tune, yes you can 'do what's expected' but it's just one of the really funky very sparsely-percussive tunes where you can totally get away with aligning it differently (especially if you're mixing not-dubstep with it, electro minimal techno whatever) -- it's good fun.

Posted: Thu Oct 05, 2006 1:05 pm
by skream
Shonky wrote:
metalboxproducts wrote:
Shonky wrote:
metalboxproducts wrote:I think he's pissed or something. :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o .

Oh dear @ Shonkey.
Yeah, have your little laugh, ho de ho, ahahahahaha

You quite done yet?

Sorry I don't know his real name but then seeing as I'm not a fan of his tunes doesn't really matter does it.

Fuck the lot of ya, grrrrrrrrrrrrrrr :evil:
Na i was talking about the first poster being pissed.
I was laughing at you though :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Sorry, I'm sure those Skream posters, and the Skream fanboy annual, and probably your Skream shrine and those rather creepy Photoshopped pictures that you tinker with featuring you and him at the poodle parlour acting like best buddies give you all the lowdown on Olly Thingy that you need to keep you informed and make you feel like you're on first name terms so that when you're standing outside his house, staring with that unnerving glint in your eye hoping to catch a glimpse, it doesn't feel quite so twisted and wrong.

But it is. Very, very wrong.

If any of the above isn't true for whatever reason do just point out the errors.
HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!!!!

Posted: Thu Oct 05, 2006 2:31 pm
by metalboxproducts
Ah look we got a responce.... :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Posted: Thu Oct 05, 2006 2:52 pm
by rekall
well you know the dubstep microcosm is still relatively smallish (though clearly not for long!)