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Ya know, I was looking at the releases that have come out this year and thinking to myself... self, there's a good deal of great shit coming out this year. In fact, there is a case to be made that Dubstep has really gotten far better than it "used to be".

So all whiners should step on somewhere and start a meetup ground back in 2004. There's a ton of great stuff out there. Stop crying and tell your mum to change your nappie and wash your face. Then go out and check the releases this year and tell me that the quality of production hasn't gotten better. Yea, you can name any tune you want and we can go round and round about how it's better than anything today, but I won't bite. The fact is, the people who were producing then, they are producing now. Then there are literally thousands of releases coming out a year now, as opposed to like... dozens. Just a thought.

yay, yet another one of these threads.

Im waiting foir the next "Dubstep has gotten sooo lame!!!" thread now, followed by another "Dubstep is awesome!!!" thread moaning about the moaners.

same shit, differant day.

I sort of agree with you man, some of the biggest tunes in my box have been from the last few months. Tunes like Buzzin, Filth, Saxon, Tell me are fuckin massive. Hessle, Hyperdub and Deep Medi are serving up the goods time and time again and that Kryptic Minds 12 is deep as.

Admittedly, theres a lot of wobble and mid-range mindless jump-up but this is the other end of the spectrum from the techy, more experimental stuff of which there is also much more these days.

I guess Loefah's gone quiet but he's pushing the label but Mala is still dropping bangers. Look at Eyez and tell me that aint deep.

On the other hand theres times when playing to a crowd where you know they just wanna hear "that Rusko tune" which is frustrating but I guess its just part of playing out.

^mala needs to drop livin different & drunken swagger, then you see me party HARD

Mans just too much. If I could have anyone's bag for a day it might have to be his.

''the quality of production (has) gotten better'' - what do you mean by this?

Corpsey wrote:''the quality of production (has) gotten better'' - what do you mean by this?

Dubstep was created by a couple of 14 year old kids on cracked fruity loops... now those same people are producing tunes years later, undoubtedly they've picked up a few things in that time. Also, there are far better producers around now, IMO than there were then. Granted, there were a few good producers obviously... but 3 good releases in 3 months is about all you could wish for at one point.

Surface_Tension wrote:

Corpsey wrote:''the quality of production (has) gotten better'' - what do you mean by this?

Dubstep was created by a couple of 14 year old kids on cracked fruity loops...

lies . everyone knows it was rolf harris on animal hospital

oh fuck off with the mythical legend of croydon's big apple. Thats just hatcha and blackdown creating a sth london legacy while trying to cement themselves as architects...

...how long you been into this shit for ???

I think once the techno people started making dubstep the bar got RAISED production wise.

^^^another younger talkin shit yeah ???

Nowt to do with tekno, just releases.

beatlejuice wrote:^^^another younger talkin shit yeah ???

Um, no?

I meant that once the scene wasn't totally comprised of rudeboys with fruity (<<< overexaggeration ), then the production has stepped up.

I love skream, benga et al but compare like the early tempa releases with like present day ramadanman or martyn tunes and you'll see what I mean.

pdomino wrote:Nowt to do with tekno, just releases.

Also tekno is the crap they play at free parties, techno is a huge and diverse genre that definitely influences lots of others.

lol

Surface_Tension wrote:there is a case to be made that Dubstep has really gotten far better

Just as there is a case to be made for corporal punishment, so turds can be well produced.

not really feeling ramadanman or martyn...

...i'll take the rufness of MRK1, oris jay, SLT mob over them anyday

of course if you throw toasty's "old" productions against martyn or ramadanman then i'd say your talkin some shit eh...

...all good tho cos i'm all about the shit talk

better? are you mad. Totally flopped it. Check how many waste man releases are getting pushed out.

Bring back the sound from 2004/5.

beatlejuice wrote:
...i'll take the rufness of MRK1, oris jay, SLT mob over them anyday

Word.

[quote="Surface_Tension"]Ya know, I was looking at the releases that have come out this year and thinking to myself... self, there's a good deal of great shit coming out this year. In fact, there is a case to be made that Dubstep has really gotten far better than it "used to be".

So all whiners should step on somewhere and start a meetup ground back in 2004. There's a ton of great stuff out there. Stop crying and tell your mum to change your nappie and wash your face. Then go out and check the releases this year and tell me that the quality of production hasn't gotten better. Yea, you can name any tune you want and we can go round and round about how it's better than anything today, but I won't bite. The fact is, the people who were producing then, they are producing now. Then there are literally thousands of releases coming out a year now, as opposed to like... dozens. Just a thought.[/quote] I Started to post a reply and then stopped becuase i saw who the thread starter was and i remembered that you're the greatest guff talker ever and everything you post is cringe worthy.