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Hey,

Been DJ'ing dubstep and now want to move into production. I played around with Reason years ago but never really got on that well with it tbh. I'm working on a PC and just wondering on some advice. I'll be able to get educational versions of the software where I can coz I'm going to be on a music tech course. Just wondering whether you think Fruity Loops Studio and NI's stuff - probably get Massive and Kontakt first and expand later or whether to go for Reason 4 would be a good starter. I want to get the best sound possible. Are there producers who just use FL & VST's or Reason4 for their sound or is everyone Cubase/Logic?

What would the jump from FL or R4 to Cubase be like. Cubase learning curve seems steep at the mo.

Use anything you like really, folks on here use all sorts of stuff - they all essentially do the same things. You can download demos of most, so you could try a few and see which one best suits/inspires you and roll with that.

Same thing w/ buying VSTs. Massive is popular and powerful, but there are tons of great ones.

Most importantly, I think you should get your software of choice and really learn it, then after you have a good understanding you will better understand what particular VST you may want. Most DAWs these days have great ones built in:3osc in Fuity, Thor in Reason, etc.

FWIW: I use Ableton Live and have a NI Massive and FM8. I didn't buy any VSTs for over a year, I stuck w/ Ableton's built on Synths. That's me though.

my advice would be to start with what you intend to be using once you advance. If you are going to take a music tech course you want the one the coincides with the software you are going to be using and vice versa.

p.s. just in case you don't know Reason does not allow you to import 3rd party Vsts. That is enough to keep me away for good even though Reason 3 is what i started on.

analogheart wrote:Hey,

Been DJ'ing dubstep and now want to move into production. I played around with Reason years ago but never really got on that well with it tbh. I'm working on a PC and just wondering on some advice. I'll be able to get educational versions of the software where I can coz I'm going to be on a music tech course. Just wondering whether you think Fruity Loops Studio and NI's stuff - probably get Massive and Kontakt first and expand later or whether to go for Reason 4 would be a good starter. I want to get the best sound possible. Are there producers who just use FL & VST's or Reason4 for their sound or is everyone Cubase/Logic?

Personaly I think reason is a bit dated... It was a cool successor to rebirth in the days, but the sheer possibility's of all the VST's out there (and the fact that reason does not support these) makes me point far from it.

It does have potential though, and off course good music can be made with it. Just bear in mind that this is not an open platform so you're limited by that.

And there's shit loads off producers releasing tracks made in Fruity Reason or even home made DAW's!. It's basicly down to preference...

What would the jump from FL or R4 to Cubase be like. Cubase learning curve seems steep at the mo.

Yes, fl is easy to master and cubase is hard to master (fully) but I found FL a bit quirky... That is; It does 80% that other (dare I say more "proffesional" ) DAW's do, but sometimes the placing off certain functions just puts me off.

I say it's option d you might be looking for Ableton Live! It's not that hard to master, has good tutorials bundled with the program, and has a lot of power under the hood!

reason is pure cheez. if i hear those horn's or violins in another kromestar song ima lose it.

stick to Ableton Live.

whatever you choose to use there's a wealth of knowledge on here and the grid on doa and as long as it's not the same rinsed out questions we see every week you'll be sure to get some knowledgable answers

comes down to what you feel comfortable working in though, best to master the tools you have then have a million things you know only a little about each

imo I think ppl should start on the DAW that they wanna learn, think of the time ur going to waste learning FL knowing that youre going to want to use cubase a couple of years down the line. It's not that hard laying stuff down in cubase, get to grips with the basics in there and learn the ins and outs as you go, otherwise youll find yourself jumping back and forth between daw's when you want to do something you don't know how to do yet the 2nd time around, obviously its gonna help with ideas and structuring for your music but I just see it as a waste of time, unless of course youre planning on using fl and cubase together .

hurlingdervish wrote:reason is pure cheez. if i hear those horn's or violins in another kromestar song ima lose it.

stick to Ableton Live.

maybe he just uses the presets...it's not like you can't load new patches

rdubz wrote:imo I think ppl should start on the DAW that they wanna learn, think of the time ur going to waste learning FL knowing that youre going to want to use cubase a couple of years down the line. It's not that hard laying stuff down in cubase, get to grips with the basics in there and learn the ins and outs as you go, otherwise youll find yourself jumping back and forth between daw's when you want to do something you don't know how to do yet the 2nd time around, obviously its gonna help with ideas and structuring for your music but I just see it as a waste of time, unless of course youre planning on using fl and cubase together .

Great advice Rdubz