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Voicy bassline
Posted: Thu Jun 11, 2009 3:49 pm
by TherapyBE
Hello,
I'm pretty new to the production of music.
Since the last months I hear alot of tunes with basslines that sound like they have a voice. i.e murda sound from bar 9 was the first tune where I heard this effect. A more recent tune is the future from trolley snatcha.
I have absolutely no idea how, I tried the choirs in reason without succes.
Maybe anyone here can give me a headstart.
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Stick
Posted: Thu Jun 11, 2009 3:56 pm
by futures_untold
Hello
There are a few possible ways of doing this.
> They may have used a vocoder.
> They may have used a formant/vowel filter.
> They may have been clever bastards with a sample that integrates really well into their bass sound... ?
I'd suggest you find some tutorials on Google or Youtube that explain how vocoders and formant filters work.
Posted: Thu Jun 11, 2009 3:58 pm
by strukture
try using formant filters. and if your using reason i know the malstrom as a few formant waveforms as well.
Posted: Thu Jun 11, 2009 3:58 pm
by drokkr
maybe a bitcrusher too?
Posted: Thu Jun 11, 2009 4:11 pm
by TherapyBE
Thanks all for the quick replies.
Gonna try this.
Peace
Posted: Thu Jun 11, 2009 4:18 pm
by MidnightMassDubstep
Bitcrusher, with that wierd timbre it gives it, in albino it's called the "DIV" and I'm not sure what it does.
Ahh yeahh, that's the sample rate, that's what it is. Found out earlier today.
Posted: Sat Jun 13, 2009 10:08 pm
by michaelvman
id say the most common method is to bit crush, as well as maybe a formant filter. the main thing is to get the starting sound rite, different filter envelopes and wobble timbres will make different vowel sounds and what not.
Posted: Sat Jun 13, 2009 10:10 pm
by scooterjack
2 best choices = vocoder and/or formant filter
Posted: Sat Jun 13, 2009 10:13 pm
by cartoon_head
That Circle vst is sick. I couldnt get my head around it when someone else recommended it on here before but it sounds worth giving a go.
Posted: Sat Jun 13, 2009 10:16 pm
by deadly_habit
ill-esha wrote:Certain VSTs are better equipped to generate this sound. For instance, FAW Circle (my 2nd fave bass synth) has a "mouth filter" and you can automate it back and forth between three vowels of your choice - sick!! Look in the middle near the top of the pic below:
Camel Alchemy (my top bass synth) allows you to load any audio samples, including vocal, and apply all sorts of different synthesis methods to them - you can edit the partials in additive mode, or use spectral and granular effects... DROOL!
like to add u-he zebra 2 to the list
Posted: Wed Jun 17, 2009 9:40 am
by TherapyBE
Thanks all !
Posted: Wed Jun 17, 2009 9:42 am
by r
sugarbytes wow filter
Posted: Wed Jun 17, 2009 10:12 am
by serox
What is the 'formant' filter on the Malstrom and how do you run something thru it? I am guessing you need to flip it and re-wire in/out ?
Posted: Wed Jun 17, 2009 10:33 am
by POND LIFE
err, no disrepect but you guys may be overcomplicating things slightly. bitcrusher + experiment, simple.
Posted: Wed Jun 17, 2009 10:34 am
by serox
d1rt1989 wrote:err, no disrepect but you guys may be overcomplicating things slightly. bitcrusher + experiment, simple.
Reason doesn't have a bitcrusher tho....
Posted: Wed Jun 17, 2009 10:35 am
by POND LIFE
oh right, overlooked that bit, sorry.
Posted: Wed Jun 17, 2009 10:41 am
by r
d1rt1989 wrote:err, no disrepect but you guys may be overcomplicating things slightly. bitcrusher + experiment, simple.
i think this is way more complicated then just get a formant filter
Posted: Wed Jun 17, 2009 10:44 am
by futures_untold
Serox wrote:d1rt1989 wrote:err, no disrepect but you guys may be overcomplicating things slightly. bitcrusher + experiment, simple.
Reason doesn't have a bitcrusher tho....
Yer it does..!!
The Scream 4 Distortion Device has a setting called 'Digital' which is actually a bit crusher algorthm..... (Hears the sound of Mr T saying 'Fool!')
And seprately, the Malstrom has a waveshaper with some interesting modes, like the quantise and noise modes. They can both be pushed to destroy any sound!
(The Malstrom can be used as an insert effect for those of you who haven't explored the back yet)
Posted: Wed Jun 17, 2009 10:46 am
by serox
R wrote:d1rt1989 wrote:err, no disrepect but you guys may be overcomplicating things slightly. bitcrusher + experiment, simple.
i think this is way more complicated then just get a formant filter
Explain:)