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Minimal.
Posted: Mon Jun 29, 2009 5:28 pm
by djelements
Anybody in here produce minimal? If so, who's got a couple tips for a beginning minimal producer?
Posted: Mon Jun 29, 2009 5:35 pm
by contakt321
check out mnml.nl
it's a forum for minimal producers
Posted: Mon Jun 29, 2009 5:39 pm
by daryo
don't produce minimal..it's so boring nowadays

Re: Minimal.
Posted: Mon Jun 29, 2009 5:50 pm
by cartoon_head
DJelements wrote:Anybody in here produce minimal? If so, who's got a couple tips for a beginning minimal producer?
Tips? There's nothing to it

Posted: Mon Jun 29, 2009 5:51 pm
by drokkr
contakt321 wrote:check out mnml.nl
it's a forum for minimal producers
a great forum, some serious knowledge on there too.
i do a bit of minimal but i have not updated the page in ages -
www.myspace.com/drokkrminimal
Posted: Mon Jun 29, 2009 5:51 pm
by DZA
daryo wrote:don't produce minimal..it's so boring nowadays


Fail
Posted: Mon Jun 29, 2009 8:25 pm
by q23
Minimal is the dub of techno - with more bassweight on the low end than most of the other sub genres.
Posted: Mon Jun 29, 2009 8:30 pm
by POND LIFE
as far as the couple of london clubs that sometimes play minimal go, it is SO SO boring nowadays. went to wetyourself/trailertrash at fabric a couple months ago and that truly seemed like the nail in the coffin.
style of eye was playing, and his productions, are sick, and yet it was musically one of the worst nights ive ever been to. tunes worth getting excited about came at a rate of about 1 an hour.
used to regular it at egg in kings cross and there i watched minimal go from something pretty good - wasnt electro but i still dug it - to something unbearable.
possibly just a london hipster thing though, havent really had the same issue with techno nights in pompey where im at uni, they've been fine.
edit: oh and yeah i have produced one minimalish track just for shits (not true minimal, but kind of. dont really know that much about techno) ...
http://www.zshare.net/audio/620221436b7528af/
Posted: Mon Jun 29, 2009 8:37 pm
by norman swashbuckle
go to public life aka the toilet
12am-8pm saturdays
say thats boring
Posted: Mon Jun 29, 2009 8:41 pm
by POND LIFE
oops typo, meant
'as far as the couple of london clubs that sometimes play minimal, that i go to, go'
think there may be more than a couple that play it lol
Posted: Mon Jun 29, 2009 8:49 pm
by ketamine
whats minimal
Posted: Mon Jun 29, 2009 8:51 pm
by glottis5
The_Dza88 wrote:daryo wrote:don't produce minimal..it's so boring nowadays


Fail
No he's right. It was cool 10 years ago, but most of the stuff nowadays makes me want to shoot myself (there's still good stuff out there though, Ostgut Ton, Sleeparchive, Modern Love, etc.).
As for tips, POLYRHYTHMS. If you listen to old minimal (when it was actually interesting) it's full of clever polyrhythms. Some Philus tracks have 3 against 4 rhythms (kick every beat, donk sound every 3 quarter beats), some Fluxion songs have five against four, etc.
Posted: Mon Jun 29, 2009 9:08 pm
by djelements
d1rt1989 wrote:as far as the couple of london clubs that sometimes play minimal go, it is SO SO boring nowadays. went to wetyourself/trailertrash at fabric a couple months ago and that truly seemed like the nail in the coffin.
style of eye was playing, and his productions, are sick, and yet it was musically one of the worst nights ive ever been to. tunes worth getting excited about came at a rate of about 1 an hour.
used to regular it at egg in kings cross and there i watched minimal go from something pretty good - wasnt electro but i still dug it - to something unbearable.
possibly just a london hipster thing though, havent really had the same issue with techno nights in pompey where im at uni, they've been fine.
edit: oh and yeah i have produced one minimalish track just for shits (not true minimal, but kind of. dont really know that much about techno) ...
http://www.zshare.net/audio/620221436b7528af/
Tune is big! If I can manage to get a techno collection together, that's definitely getting played.
Posted: Mon Jun 29, 2009 9:11 pm
by DZA
glottis5 wrote:The_Dza88 wrote:daryo wrote:don't produce minimal..it's so boring nowadays


Fail
No he's right. It was cool 10 years ago, but most of the stuff nowadays makes me want to shoot myself (there's still good stuff out there though, Ostgut Ton, Sleeparchive, Modern Love, etc.).
As for tips, POLYRHYTHMS. If you listen to old minimal (when it was actually interesting) it's full of clever polyrhythms. Some Philus tracks have 3 against 4 rhythms (kick every beat, donk sound every 3 quarter beats), some Fluxion songs have five against four, etc.

Posted: Mon Jun 29, 2009 9:13 pm
by POND LIFE
Ketamine wrote:whats minimal
someone going by the name of "ketamine", uttering the words "whats minimal?" this is without a doubt the most paradoxical thing i have ever seen.
cheers elements - i dont really regard it as a serious production of mine but yeah its nice innit.
Posted: Mon Jun 29, 2009 9:21 pm
by sifres
Personally? I hate the scene in holland (trailer trash) and I can't stand the music... Think it's druggy music with no soul... But hey, that's me...
Not as bad as my GF though, she gets VERY aggressive if she hears minimal...
Not trying to bring it down or anything... I mean, if it works for you, go for it! Just sharing my thoughts
But there's some pretty decent crossover stuff. I think for instance 2562 is pretty much minimal / housey influenced, if you like both minimal and dubstep, check his shit out!
Posted: Mon Jun 29, 2009 10:13 pm
by daryo
The_Dza88 wrote:glottis5 wrote:The_Dza88 wrote:daryo wrote:don't produce minimal..it's so boring nowadays


Fail
No he's right. It was cool 10 years ago, but most of the stuff nowadays makes me want to shoot myself (there's still good stuff out there though, Ostgut Ton, Sleeparchive, Modern Love, etc.).
As for tips, POLYRHYTHMS. If you listen to old minimal (when it was actually interesting) it's full of clever polyrhythms. Some Philus tracks have 3 against 4 rhythms (kick every beat, donk sound every 3 quarter beats), some Fluxion songs have five against four, etc.

Right!
That's what I wanted to say...Anyway I think OstGut Ton stuff is more techno then minimal..Some releases are raw techno which is good.
The new album from PAS it's amazing for example.
For minimal I mean the boring trendy stuff.
Posted: Mon Jun 29, 2009 11:32 pm
by darkmatteruk
Posted: Mon Jun 29, 2009 11:35 pm
by POND LIFE
to give it credit, it does seem to be the only club music that i still find reasonably listenable on k - it fucks with my interpretation of music pretty badly. dnb is a no go, dubstep suffers too. minimal though, gallop away.
but when you find yourself coming down with none of the stuff to be found and nothing but minimal playing, absolute fucking nightmare.
Posted: Mon Jun 29, 2009 11:59 pm
by crytek
Love minimal techno/music in general. To me the though, I think minimal is all about artist like Ritchie Hawtin, Signal, or even Porter Ricks. Just the groove guys like those build with pretty much very basic elements. And they are especially more than what they seem on first listen.