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Stepping away from 140...
Posted: Thu Jul 09, 2009 7:30 am
by magma
... is it me, or do things really start to make sense again at around 134?

Posted: Thu Jul 09, 2009 7:40 am
by hummer197933
hell yeah...
what dr.dre said...slower is better
Posted: Thu Jul 09, 2009 9:15 am
by Original Face
Interesting. I've been feeling the same. As Blackdown put it in a recent blog, "I feel an urge to drop the bpms and up the groove." (
http://blackdownsoundboy.blogspot.com/)
I wonder whether we're starting to see a BPM split in the scene - with some going faster and harder and others going slower and funkier.
Posted: Thu Jul 09, 2009 9:20 am
by ponte_ricky
would it not make things quite difficult for djing though to fuck around with bpm?
Posted: Thu Jul 09, 2009 9:26 am
by magma
ponte_ricky wrote:would it not make things quite difficult for djing though to fuck around with bpm?
Doesn't seem to matter that much in other genres... DnB moves around a bit, so does a lot of house and oldschool rave stuff... Dubstep DJs have it easy at the moment as far as beatmatching goes!
Think about all the beatmatches a Hip Hop DJ has to do!
Posted: Thu Jul 09, 2009 10:19 am
by antics
if DMZ taught me anything, its that dubsteppers like to maintain their groove, so dont move the bpm tooooooo far....
Posted: Thu Jul 09, 2009 10:19 am
by wooda916
138 is my favourite bpm.
everything is super head-noddable or skank-outable there.
over 140 is too fast imo. (unless its dnb etc. of course)
Posted: Thu Jul 09, 2009 10:20 am
by r
150 .... jungggleeee or 130
Posted: Thu Jul 09, 2009 10:58 am
by theone1_
Well I've noticed that whenever Skream does a remix of a tune it seems to be 146.. which was weird, but still works!
Posted: Thu Jul 09, 2009 11:29 am
by legend4ry
Haha ive had many of discussions with producers about this..
We have came to the conclusion..
130-138ish = more groove, soul, space.
139-145ish = more dance inclined energy.
Though this is pretty bollocks - seeing as you can get groove and energy out of any BPM if you try hard enough - it seems to be if you want something to nod your head to drop it down if you want to wave your hands like a flid on the dance floor - raise it.
Posted: Thu Jul 09, 2009 11:50 am
by webstarr
I move the tempo quite a bit, generally starting around 132/33 (though I have been known to go as low as 127) and building it up to 140
Posted: Thu Jul 09, 2009 12:00 pm
by spencertron
we've done our last 2 hafstep/dubsteppy tunes at 170bpm
Posted: Thu Jul 09, 2009 12:20 pm
by lojik
Oddly, while I'm starting to prefer making tunes at slow than 140 tempos, when I DJ I always pitch up about 4 or 5%.
Re: Stepping away from 140...
Posted: Thu Jul 09, 2009 1:06 pm
by FSTZ1
Magma wrote:... is it me, or do things really start to make sense again at around 134?

yeah
I like anything faster than 125
but slower isn't always better (sorry Dre)
Posted: Thu Jul 09, 2009 1:09 pm
by DZA
Surely its up to the DJ how fast its gonna be in the mix, so its never really gonna be its original tempo when being played out

Posted: Thu Jul 09, 2009 1:15 pm
by FSTZ1
^^^very true but I try not to speed anything up faster than 4% on the pitch slider
Posted: Thu Jul 09, 2009 1:21 pm
by 86.
Legendary wrote:
Though this is pretty bollocks - seeing as you can get groove and energy out of any BPM if you try hard enough.
I think this as well.
Posted: Thu Jul 09, 2009 2:02 pm
by Pallms
I personally like 138.
Also, aren't many of the original dubstep tracks slightly lower than 140?
Posted: Thu Jul 09, 2009 3:01 pm
by gravity
hummer197933 wrote:hell yeah...
what dr.dre said...slower is better
bollocks
Posted: Thu Jul 09, 2009 3:04 pm
by karmacazee
133.5 is the danciest BPM of them all. You can go all night

Can't remember who said that, some big producer or DJ...
I've been trying some of that 95bpm glitchop-hop/lazer base or whatever it's called stuff lately. Satisfying Jazzy/funky grooveland here I come!