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Stepping away from 140...

Posted: Thu Jul 09, 2009 7:30 am
by magma
... is it me, or do things really start to make sense again at around 134? 8)

Posted: Thu Jul 09, 2009 7:40 am
by hummer197933
hell yeah...
what dr.dre said...slower is better

Posted: Thu Jul 09, 2009 9:15 am
by Original Face
Interesting. I've been feeling the same. As Blackdown put it in a recent blog, "I feel an urge to drop the bpms and up the groove." (http://blackdownsoundboy.blogspot.com/)

I wonder whether we're starting to see a BPM split in the scene - with some going faster and harder and others going slower and funkier.

Posted: Thu Jul 09, 2009 9:20 am
by ponte_ricky
would it not make things quite difficult for djing though to fuck around with bpm?

Posted: Thu Jul 09, 2009 9:26 am
by magma
ponte_ricky wrote:would it not make things quite difficult for djing though to fuck around with bpm?
Doesn't seem to matter that much in other genres... DnB moves around a bit, so does a lot of house and oldschool rave stuff... Dubstep DJs have it easy at the moment as far as beatmatching goes!

Think about all the beatmatches a Hip Hop DJ has to do!

Posted: Thu Jul 09, 2009 10:19 am
by antics
if DMZ taught me anything, its that dubsteppers like to maintain their groove, so dont move the bpm tooooooo far....

Posted: Thu Jul 09, 2009 10:19 am
by wooda916
138 is my favourite bpm.

everything is super head-noddable or skank-outable there.

over 140 is too fast imo. (unless its dnb etc. of course)

Posted: Thu Jul 09, 2009 10:20 am
by r
150 .... jungggleeee or 130

Posted: Thu Jul 09, 2009 10:58 am
by theone1_
Well I've noticed that whenever Skream does a remix of a tune it seems to be 146.. which was weird, but still works!

Posted: Thu Jul 09, 2009 11:29 am
by legend4ry
Haha ive had many of discussions with producers about this..

We have came to the conclusion..

130-138ish = more groove, soul, space.

139-145ish = more dance inclined energy.


Though this is pretty bollocks - seeing as you can get groove and energy out of any BPM if you try hard enough - it seems to be if you want something to nod your head to drop it down if you want to wave your hands like a flid on the dance floor - raise it.

Posted: Thu Jul 09, 2009 11:50 am
by webstarr
I move the tempo quite a bit, generally starting around 132/33 (though I have been known to go as low as 127) and building it up to 140

Posted: Thu Jul 09, 2009 12:00 pm
by spencertron
we've done our last 2 hafstep/dubsteppy tunes at 170bpm

Posted: Thu Jul 09, 2009 12:20 pm
by lojik
Oddly, while I'm starting to prefer making tunes at slow than 140 tempos, when I DJ I always pitch up about 4 or 5%.

Re: Stepping away from 140...

Posted: Thu Jul 09, 2009 1:06 pm
by FSTZ1
Magma wrote:... is it me, or do things really start to make sense again at around 134? 8)
yeah

I like anything faster than 125

:)

but slower isn't always better (sorry Dre)

Posted: Thu Jul 09, 2009 1:09 pm
by DZA
Surely its up to the DJ how fast its gonna be in the mix, so its never really gonna be its original tempo when being played out

:)

Posted: Thu Jul 09, 2009 1:15 pm
by FSTZ1
^^^very true but I try not to speed anything up faster than 4% on the pitch slider

Posted: Thu Jul 09, 2009 1:21 pm
by 86.
Legendary wrote: Though this is pretty bollocks - seeing as you can get groove and energy out of any BPM if you try hard enough.

I think this as well.

Posted: Thu Jul 09, 2009 2:02 pm
by Pallms
I personally like 138.

Also, aren't many of the original dubstep tracks slightly lower than 140?

Posted: Thu Jul 09, 2009 3:01 pm
by gravity
hummer197933 wrote:hell yeah...
what dr.dre said...slower is better
bollocks

Posted: Thu Jul 09, 2009 3:04 pm
by karmacazee
133.5 is the danciest BPM of them all. You can go all night :D Can't remember who said that, some big producer or DJ...

I've been trying some of that 95bpm glitchop-hop/lazer base or whatever it's called stuff lately. Satisfying Jazzy/funky grooveland here I come!