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Ableton Live Tutorial: Follow Actions

Posted: Tue Aug 04, 2009 3:24 pm
by hurlingdervish
So one thing about Ableton Live people either don't get, don't care about, or don't know about is the follow actions in session view.

So what you are going to do is go to your browser and just grab 16 samples and drag them into a new track.
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make sure you click on the [L] button in the bottom left to open up the Launch settings.

See how I have it set to "0.0.1" ? that means that each clip will play for one 1/16 note. If it was 0.1.0 that would be one quarter note. Since I chose "Play next" after one 1/16 note the proceeding clip will play

For the sake of simplicity keep your samples in groups of four so you can keep the whole sequence in time.

The benefit of doing this is that you don't have to spend endless time tweaking stuff in arrangement
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something like that manually placed could take a while, but this was done in a few minutes with follow actions.


now you can experiment by changing the quantization of the clips with the same way you changed the launch settings. I would suggest having all of the clips at 1/16 quantization with the first clip at 1/4 or 1/2 or one bar.

this way you can fire off segments of the loop in a "slicing" manner but the loop will continue after triggering the sample. However, since triggering random clips for fun might make the beat be several steps off time, the first clip has a larger quantization so it can automatically be launched back in time with everything else.

Things to experiment with:
1. Draw volume envelopes for each individual sample
2. Tune each sample different
3. Make different warpings for each sample to add space for a groove
4. Make different grain settings on each clip

you also may want to resample the loops if you don't want Live to be processing thousands of clips.



Another mode is "legato" mode. This is really a great thing. So say you have 5 drum loops but the start of the extra drumloops are basically the same as the first, and you want to get the end of each loop instead.
Select all the clips, turn on the "RAM" button, and the legato button.

Launch the first clip.
Now when you launch any other clip while the first one is playing...it will start from the SAME PLACE THE FIRST CLIP LEFT OFF

meaning

if you played the first clip for 1 beat, and started the second clip, the second clip would play from the second beat!
so even though you have 5 loops, you can make them act as one essentially.

It's a lot to take in, but its well worth it. I have gotten some severely glitchy loops this way, and it is lots of fun.

give it a go.

Posted: Tue Aug 04, 2009 4:33 pm
by hurlingdervish
oh BTW....this is basically what those monome guys use to get that sequence going where they can play individual hits out of it

Posted: Tue Aug 04, 2009 5:05 pm
by magma
Nice post... already tampered with this, but never really made it work for anything particularly practical. This is a bit of an inspiration to give it another go! :D

Posted: Tue Aug 04, 2009 9:46 pm
by contakt321
This + dummy clips = whoa

Posted: Tue Aug 04, 2009 10:24 pm
by hurlingdervish
contakt321 wrote:This + dummy clips = whoa
i still havent fit dummy clips into my workflow...

keep in mind you can also automate midi settings PER clip!

thats nuts...try doing basslines like that and draw a filter sweep on each one
unless you meant follow actions on dummy clips themselves...sheesh that blows my mind :o

Posted: Tue Aug 04, 2009 10:26 pm
by contakt321
It's not in mine either but I plan on experimenting with them. Tom Cosm did some cool videos on his site, as did Chris Willets on XLR8R.com.

Pretty insane that you can have them automate anything.

Posted: Tue Aug 04, 2009 10:41 pm
by notch
My hats off good sir!
Love all this Ableton Love!! :)

Posted: Wed Aug 05, 2009 12:39 am
by karmacazee
Whoa!

I give you all the kudos that is humanly possible. I'm even taking kudos away from other people and am giving it to you.

Nice one!

Posted: Wed Aug 05, 2009 2:09 pm
by hurlingdervish
glad it helped!

Posted: Wed Aug 05, 2009 5:52 pm
by hurlingdervish
UPDATE.


I tried the follow actions on the dummy clips. and WOW.
Amazing....
set up 8 chains of effects or groups of effects and set the launch settings to a fast rate, and basically you have your own personalized "Glitch Vst" that does a lot more than the annoying tape stop. Best of all you can re arrange the order of the effects while modulating them...
I tried it out just to record a loop, but I kept making adjustments and the recording came out to three minutes.:o :o :o :o

what it looked like (ignore the soloing)
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those chains on the bottom were in order at the start, but re arranged to be on the beat.
what it sounded like:
http://www.box.net/shared/f0huto4771


+200000 to Live

Posted: Wed Aug 05, 2009 7:02 pm
by heidi m.
Nice one for this, V. Interesting 8)

Posted: Wed Aug 05, 2009 8:55 pm
by hurlingdervish
your welcome, It's been a learning experience for me as well, explaining this things by writing it down makes it easier for me to remember to use them

if you want to go even DEEPER

assign a knob to each volume on the chain for some old school style sequencing but with effects

:o

or each chain with a different filter type...
:o
oh god this could go on for days....

Posted: Wed Aug 05, 2009 9:18 pm
by mks
I've used this for drum fills and change ups before. I'm gonna have to try the effects ting with dummy clips. Sounds cool.

Cheers

Posted: Wed Aug 05, 2009 10:40 pm
by hurlingdervish
i got some more presents for y'all!
"Dub Machine"
http://www.box.net/shared/fr1n3gfdqd

self contained custom audio rack + dummy clips.

put in your library and drag to a new track.

Send your desired track to a return channel, then send that return channel to the track with the dummy clips. Click "IN" on the monitor settings.

You will need the Tal Dub delay 2, but you could easily swap it out for something else. Same thing goes with the loop i used for the dummy clips, if its not included you can use any loop at all...doesn't matter

the dummy clips have follow actions so when you hit play, the dub fuckery begins....
mess with the macros to change the dubness.

have fun...but experiment with it...swap the effects....change the follow action timing...etc :D

Posted: Thu Aug 06, 2009 3:07 pm
by hurlingdervish
Heres some more effects and follow actions to check out

http://www.box.net/shared/k5gzcdvqvv

i was able to make a step filter, and a wobble set of dummy clips

included is also barebones dummy clips with follow actions ready to go. All you need to do is :
1.unzip them into your library
2.Drag desired .als into the project (you will see the clips)
3. Route the audio from the track you want to be affected, by either sends or direct routing

If you used my step filter, dub machine, or wobble machine, this as far as you need to go but if you want to change it then

4. open up the audio effect rack and drag an effect into each chain. the dummy clips cycle through those chains when you hit play.

Don't sleep on this! you will be glad you didn't....

Posted: Tue Sep 08, 2009 2:14 am
by AnalGangstaHo
This is fuckin' nuts :o


:D

Posted: Tue Sep 08, 2009 12:18 pm
by karmacazee
Thanks Hurling....

And AnalGangstaHo = best username ever.