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wub wrote:Means we still get a good showing at Wimbledon.

I'm willing to bet he never wins another major

LACE wrote:bit disappointed scotland voted to preserve the union. i was looking forward to them breaking free and joining the nordic council and perhaps making my life up north a bit easier with regards to cheaper goods? if secession didn't happen now, i don't see it ever happening. england's economic grip on scotland is just too strong

The main reason I voted no is I don't want to be lead blind by Salmond & Sturgeon, not because I'm ecstatic with the union. There was still no real idea of what was going to happen with currency.
They talk about being the only way to preserve the NHS - when Sturgeon went on and cut 1500 nurses jobs a few years back, people are quick to forget

Although, I'm glad to see there's so many people in this country who want to help the poor and needy, charities will be swamped with volunteers!!

I was on the big central square in glasgow last night.

Liam92 wrote:

LACE wrote:bit disappointed scotland voted to preserve the union. i was looking forward to them breaking free and joining the nordic council and perhaps making my life up north a bit easier with regards to cheaper goods? if secession didn't happen now, i don't see it ever happening. england's economic grip on scotland is just too strong

The main reason I voted no is I don't want to be lead blind by Salmond & Sturgeon, not because I'm ecstatic with the union. There was still no real idea of what was going to happen with currency.
They talk about being the only way to preserve the NHS - when Sturgeon went on and cut 1500 nurses jobs a few years back, people are quick to forget

Although, I'm glad to see there's so many people in this country who want to help the poor and needy, charities will be swamped with volunteers!!

understandable.. the currency issue would've swayed my vote to no if i had the chance. i mean, even if scotland was using pounds without issue,it'd complicate finances, especially without having any control over monetary policies. it's like this independence thing wasn't fully planned out. i really thought this was gonna be the end though!

AND going by what you're saying, you just have to be able to trust whoever is steering the way. i guess these guys (i haven't read anything about them) were not the chosen ones to lead scotland into independence. maybe if you got the right politicians down the line it'd be a different story

if scotland voted yes they would of had less power with having no centralised banks.

quite funny hearing these stories about aggressive he's voters.

lol idiots very low iq

the only good thing scotland had ever produced was a macaroni cheese pie.

LACE wrote:

Liam92 wrote:

LACE wrote:bit disappointed scotland voted to preserve the union. i was looking forward to them breaking free and joining the nordic council and perhaps making my life up north a bit easier with regards to cheaper goods? if secession didn't happen now, i don't see it ever happening. england's economic grip on scotland is just too strong

The main reason I voted no is I don't want to be lead blind by Salmond & Sturgeon, not because I'm ecstatic with the union. There was still no real idea of what was going to happen with currency.
They talk about being the only way to preserve the NHS - when Sturgeon went on and cut 1500 nurses jobs a few years back, people are quick to forget

Although, I'm glad to see there's so many people in this country who want to help the poor and needy, charities will be swamped with volunteers!!

understandable.. the currency issue would've swayed my vote to no if i had the chance. i mean, even if scotland was using pounds without issue,it'd complicate finances, especially without having any control over monetary policies. it's like this independence thing wasn't fully planned out. i really thought this was gonna be the end though!

AND going by what you're saying, you just have to be able to trust whoever is steering the way. i guess these guys (i haven't read anything about them) were not the chosen ones to lead scotland into independence. maybe if you got the right politicians down the line it'd be a different story

A lot of the YES mob are calling the no voters unpatriotic, selfish, scum and all sorts. My vote was against Salmond and the SNP, not support for Westminster and the House of Lords, the guy's a wolf in sheeps clothing, not this Robin Hood, steal from the rich and give to the poor that's he's managed convince people he is. He's on a 6 figure salary like the rest of them, so I don't believe for one second that he's creating all this wealth to divide evenly between every Scot.

Actually quite sad to see friends of mine indirectly insult me tbh. I've tried not to get angry about it, but it's difficult not to be.

That's exactly my point, I've never been entirely sure that Salmond always wanted to be fully independent anyway, I think it's an idea that he wanted to float about parliament for a while in a hope of scaring Westminster into devomax and when that didn't happen he got sucked in and got carried away with his idea. I mean, Tommy fucking Sheridan was one of the biggest campaigners for Independence, that tells you enough

gwa wrote:if scotland voted yes they would of had less power with having no centralised banks.

quite funny hearing these stories about aggressive he's voters.

lol idiots very low iq

yeah, in reality it would've been a nightmare..
all those loans denominated in pounds? well the payments on that would've grown, IN REAL TERMS. and all those banks doing business, giving credit? nah, no bank would've given credit in an unknown economic or tax atmosphere. no one knew what lay on the other side and tbh it was just too much risk..

i read somewhere that it would be approx 1 billion a month they would have to borrow

wahahahahahahahahahaha

i wish they did split just to watch them crumble! i hate scotland!!

Liam92 wrote:

LACE wrote:

Liam92 wrote:

LACE wrote:bit disappointed scotland voted to preserve the union. i was looking forward to them breaking free and joining the nordic council and perhaps making my life up north a bit easier with regards to cheaper goods? if secession didn't happen now, i don't see it ever happening. england's economic grip on scotland is just too strong

The main reason I voted no is I don't want to be lead blind by Salmond & Sturgeon, not because I'm ecstatic with the union. There was still no real idea of what was going to happen with currency.
They talk about being the only way to preserve the NHS - when Sturgeon went on and cut 1500 nurses jobs a few years back, people are quick to forget

Although, I'm glad to see there's so many people in this country who want to help the poor and needy, charities will be swamped with volunteers!!

understandable.. the currency issue would've swayed my vote to no if i had the chance. i mean, even if scotland was using pounds without issue,it'd complicate finances, especially without having any control over monetary policies. it's like this independence thing wasn't fully planned out. i really thought this was gonna be the end though!

AND going by what you're saying, you just have to be able to trust whoever is steering the way. i guess these guys (i haven't read anything about them) were not the chosen ones to lead scotland into independence. maybe if you got the right politicians down the line it'd be a different story

A lot of the YES mob are calling the no voters unpatriotic, selfish, scum and all sorts. My vote was against Salmond and the SNP, not support for Westminster and the House of Lords, the guy's a wolf in sheeps clothing, not this Robin Hood, steal from the rich and give to the poor that's he's managed convince people he is. He's on a 6 figure salary like the rest of them, so I don't believe for one second that he's creating all this wealth to divide evenly between every Scot.

Actually quite sad to see friends of mine indirectly insult me tbh. I've tried not to get angry about it, but it's difficult not to be.

That's exactly my point, I've never been entirely sure that Salmond always wanted to be fully independent anyway, I think it's an idea that he wanted to float about parliament for a while in a hope of scaring Westminster into devomax and when that didn't happen he got sucked in and got carried away with his idea. I mean, Tommy fucking Sheridan was one of the biggest campaigners for Independence, that tells you enough

ah, i see where you're coming from here

gwa wrote:i read somewhere that it would be approx 1 billion a month they would have to borrow

wahahahahahahahahahaha

i wish they did split just to watch them crumble! i hate scotland!!

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gwa wrote:i read somewhere that it would be approx 1 billion a month they would have to borrow

wahahahahahahahahahaha

i wish they did split just to watch them crumble! i hate scotland!!

half my family come from isle of skye and i can safely say it is not for me is scotland

gwa wrote:half my family come from isle of skye and i can safely say it is not for me is scotland

I was born in Leeds and took me about a month until I worked out it wasn't for me

look don't be on the defence mate it is a subjective thing

personally i have never benefitted from scotland and i never will

i have achieved zero sun tans there and i can't think of one decent pub where i wasn't outcasted

i am pretty confident as a country it is responsible for the atrocities that is calvin harris and jackmaster

gwa wrote:look don't be on the defence mate it is a subjective thing

personally i have never benefitted from scotland and i never will

i have achieved zero sun tans there and i can't think of one decent pub where i wasn't outcasted

i am pretty confident as a country it is responsible for the atrocities that is calvin harris and jackmaster

but shetland sweaters

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/201 ... referendum

I'm just happy it fucked with Cameron and the Queen, shows that if people make enough noise and do something that something can come out of it. I hope people living in England, Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland (and the rest of the country ) get together to work out what's fair for all of us.

At the end of the day the UK is a rich country being bled dry by rich people...

Seems like fans of a certain football team have hijacked this to air their bigoted views

Alex Salmond, the guy who supposedly had the best interests of Scotland at heart throws the toys out of the pram and quits as soon as he doesn't get his way