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Posted: **Wed Oct 26, 2005 2:47 pm**

you think

Posted: **Wed Oct 26, 2005 2:52 pm**

this thread is mental... what happened the bhangra discussion? well up for any more recommendations of stuff to check...

Posted: **Wed Oct 26, 2005 3:00 pm**

baz wrote:this thread is mental... what happened the bhangra discussion? well up for any more recommendations of stuff to check...

me too!

Posted: **Wed Oct 26, 2005 4:44 pm**

the grime LP's on rephlex confused everyone. there are people here in america that say loefah and kode 9 are grime, because the grime 2 LP told them so.
at some point a name's got to be chosen. for no other reason than sorting out all the confusion in the media. american media specifically. they love catch phrases. it makes the job of promoting this sound that much easier, if we can call both sides of this genre dubstep.

Posted: **Wed Oct 26, 2005 4:51 pm**

Pinch wrote: I've also noticed that Hotflush have had gigs all over the world, even playing soon in New York along with Search & Destroy. No doubt partly due to their excellent self promotion skills.

i'd rather say becouse of the musical diversity they present
they are the best to promote new sound
it's easier to get to the breakbeat fans through more breakbeat oriented sound and slowly giving them pure dubstep tunes between

Posted: **Wed Oct 26, 2005 5:00 pm**

geoff wrote:
Prior wrote: What i'm getting at is, if one side is as popular as another, why doesn't the media coverage reflect that? So there needs to be someone writting who's enthusiastic about other areas in this scene otherwise its not a true picture..
thats your problem isn't it? maybe one of the moaners on the this thread should pull their finger out their ass and start some breakstep journalism.

agree that the scene defo needs more journalists - will diversify the thought and what is being written far more.

bigup sen in canada for doing alot of good work on this!

Posted: **Wed Oct 26, 2005 5:14 pm**

Pinch wrote:Doesn't anyone have a f**kin job on this forum?

I'd just like to say this - the so called fracturing of the scene exits right here on forums and threads like this. No, its not down to journalists/bloggers choosing what they like and therefore write (or dont write) about - its about you lot arguing like children.

You're point is what? that breakstep doesn't get any love from the scene? I'm assuming then that the scene is primarily FWD>> and DMZ.

Oris Jay.... FWD>> Resident from inception. Release forthcoming on Ital.

Search & Destroy.... BOOKED AT FWD>> EARLIER THIS YEAR.

Hotflush.... BOOKED AT DMZ THIS MONTH.

I've also noticed that Hotflush have had gigs all over the world, even playing soon in New York along with Search & Destroy. No doubt partly due to their excellent self promotion skills. Good work, genuinely take my hat off to you. I don't see getting Hatcha booked abroad.

Perhaps then, its fair to conclude that - believe it or not - people do know about the breakstep sound despite Martin not personally focussing on it in his spare time. The artists are getting bookings and representation. Vex'd for instance have had a number of articles in various magazines from UK to USA (although they are hardly breakstep).

Frankly, if you can't just focus on making good music rather than how much attention you think you deserve, maybe you should just start doing breaks full time...

You don't see Hatcha gettin a booking abroad? Maybe because he aint tried to get a booking abroad? Sure as hell, people would book him straight up! You can't knock trying/working hard to get somewhere - i know your on the same page with me on that.

Posted: **Wed Oct 26, 2005 5:25 pm**

baz wrote:this thread is mental... what happened the bhangra discussion? well up for any more recommendations of stuff to check...

www.shivauk.com - for all your fusion needs, not entirely sure on bhangra, just head up southall high street...shops...
good links on this site.

Posted: **Wed Oct 26, 2005 6:38 pm**

Blackdown wrote: i've always taken the view with the kind of FWD flavours i dont like that there's two approaches. ignore them, or agressively critisize them. trying to stay positive, i've always favoured the former. perhaps you'd prefer the latter?

No need to get worked up but I'd be interested in hearing some constructive criticism of the sounds you don't like... criticism doesn't have to be a negative thing, and being a professional writer you'd probably word it better than most who hold the same opinion.

Posted: **Thu Oct 27, 2005 12:21 am**

when movin forward one needs a rest every now & then no?

something may lull...

but the music keeps on rollin'

peace

Posted: **Thu Oct 27, 2005 3:31 am**

Blackdown wrote:
baz wrote:this thread is mental... what happened the bhangra discussion? well up for any more recommendations of stuff to check...
me too!

did you guys cop that Tamil mix that Rupture linked on his blog?
If you didn't I'll try to find the link.

Posted: **Thu Oct 27, 2005 9:06 am**

good to see this thing has sot of resolved itself, it only took 13 pages

Posted: **Mon Oct 23, 2006 4:50 pm**

Hmmm, just to chuck in my 2pence, i wasnt too moved by some of the tunes bein played at the last dmz i went to, just sounded like dubby-breakbeat, nothin real special, allthough it was a wicked nite and there is plenty of room to musically manouver, and dubstep has allways been a broad church. Keep those bangers comin...

Posted: **Mon Oct 23, 2006 4:52 pm**

you just thought you'd chuck in your 2pence a YEAR late?! lol

Posted: **Mon Oct 23, 2006 4:58 pm**

minusdegree wrote:Hmmm, just to chuck in my 2pence, i wasnt too moved by some of the tunes bein played at the last dmz i went to, just sounded like dubby-breakbeat, nothin real special, allthough it was a wicked nite and there is plenty of room to musically manouver, and dubstep has allways been a broad church. Keep those bangers comin...

haha does anything NOT sound like dubby breakbeat to you?

Posted: **Mon Oct 23, 2006 5:01 pm**

Yeah dubstep that aint waste noise

Posted: **Mon Oct 23, 2006 5:05 pm**

Blackdown wrote:you just thought you'd chuck in your 2pence a YEAR late?! lol

it must have taken a year to dig this thread up!

Posted: **Mon Oct 23, 2006 6:34 pm**

i saw dubway's post about revealing our musical inspirations to each other, so here is my current recommendation to all those who enjoy hearing pure percussion:

Artist:

Albums: 'mel de cabra', and 'great mediterranean masters'

i discovered this music on a recent trip to Istanbul.

is a master of the 'darbuka', a north african percussion instrument traditionally made of clay that looks a bit like a djembe, but allows for finer drumming techniques. commonly used in arabic, and turkish music, the darbuka has a very tight, almost metallic quality to it's sound.

's latest recording, which is part of the 'great mediterranean masters' series is truly a masterpiece of contemporary percussionism, in the traditional hand played sense of course :p

beyond rythym,

makes the drum play melodies.

a must have album for percussion enthusiasts!

http://www.misirli-ahmet.com/

Posted: **Mon Oct 23, 2006 7:40 pm**

It's funny that I just came across this thread today, yesterday I recorded the following mix-

Rhythmn & Sound - No Partial
Breakage - Black Sunshine
Boards of Canada - Dayvan Cowboy (Odd Nosdam Remix)
Amit - True War
Delerium - Subvert
Autechre - Second Bad Vilbel
Vex'd - Bombardment of Saturn
Skinny Puppy - Yes He Ran
Burial - Distant Lights
Uusitalo - Lasi Hajoaa
Coil - The Snow (driftmix)
Dead Voices on Air - Bored of Canada
Boards of Canada - 1969

I would die if I heard someone play something like that in a club.

Posted: **Mon Oct 23, 2006 8:42 pm**

yeah gotta mix things up, keep it interesting. once it loses the element of surprise, once there's no longer that buz of hearing something new that completely catches you at unawares and makes you think fuck whats that tune i've gotta have it, then its a stagnant box like most other scenes out there.

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