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Re: Native Instruments Razor (new 'filth' plugin)

Posted: Fri Apr 22, 2011 7:51 am
by Skang
This looks pretty boss not gonna lie -q-

Re: Native Instruments Razor (new 'filth' plugin)

Posted: Fri Apr 22, 2011 7:50 pm
by dirtmonkey
I've only had it for a day and I think its my new favorite synth, tons of possibilities with this one

Re: Native Instruments Razor (new 'filth' plugin)

Posted: Fri Apr 22, 2011 11:56 pm
by Kombatant
The technical aspect of how it works is amazing, but I haven't seen it produce anything a subtractive synth can't. It's a really nice easy interface though.

Re: Native Instruments Razor (new 'filth' plugin)

Posted: Sat Apr 23, 2011 12:09 am
by nowaysj
Look at the way it can shift and slide pitches within itself, no subtractive can do that.

Re: Native Instruments Razor (new 'filth' plugin)

Posted: Sat Apr 23, 2011 5:16 am
by Grime Syndicate
And it does seem to have an inordinate amount of LARGE, very nice sounds. More so than massive even, to draw the obvious comparison.

Re: Native Instruments Razor (new 'filth' plugin)

Posted: Sat Apr 23, 2011 7:17 am
by Grime Syndicate
Ahhh, went back to Lazerbass and like you say, I understand it much better now that I've experimented with Razor, however, Razor's layout is still WAY more user friendly and tweakable. And I even still have gripes about that. Where's the option to adjust how positive or negative the lfo affects the parameter. I.E. always above the x axis or whatever. It is always modulating equally above and below the x axis, which is kinda wack, considering how easy it'd be to include such a feature. Why does NI always struggle with LFO's? Seems such a simple concept. Massive's numerical LFO system is FUCKED. Look to Lennardigital for cues on how to set up an LFO. Jus sayin...

Re: Native Instruments Razor (new 'filth' plugin)

Posted: Sun Apr 24, 2011 2:52 am
by nowaysj
Grime Syndicate wrote:I.E. always above the x axis or whatever. It is always modulating equally above and below the x axis, which is kinda wack, considering how easy it'd be to include such a feature.
What's the x axis here? The current value of what ever is being modulated?

Re: Native Instruments Razor (new 'filth' plugin)

Posted: Sun Apr 24, 2011 8:08 pm
by Grime Syndicate
Well, an LFO usually has the option to affect whatever it's modulating positively, negatively, or some combination of both. (I.E. making the cutoff on the filter go either up, down, or up and down.) THIS LFO, well, it only has one setting, modulating the source both positively and negatively equally.

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The blue portion is the positive bit, in the photo. Above the x axis, feel me?

Re: Native Instruments Razor (new 'filth' plugin)

Posted: Sun Apr 24, 2011 8:10 pm
by Grime Syndicate
nowaysj wrote:
Grime Syndicate wrote:I.E. always above the x axis or whatever. It is always modulating equally above and below the x axis, which is kinda wack, considering how easy it'd be to include such a feature.
What's the x axis here? The current value of what ever is being modulated?
Oh, i read this wrong. I could've been much more brief and said, simply, yes.

Re: Native Instruments Razor (new 'filth' plugin)

Posted: Sun Apr 24, 2011 11:44 pm
by Dublicious
Got it, rate it.. not to happy with it being reactor only, NI trying to make more money... but the sounds are nice, bit of a cpu slut.. but th modulation capabilities are nice.

Re: Native Instruments Razor (new 'filth' plugin)

Posted: Mon Apr 25, 2011 7:39 am
by nowaysj
Then you can just decrease the lfo modulation destination's initial value by the amplitude of the lfo's modulation, and the lfo is entirely positive. If you follow? hehe! Maybe I still don't follow?
Grime Syndicate wrote:
nowaysj wrote:
Grime Syndicate wrote:I.E. always above the x axis or whatever. It is always modulating equally above and below the x axis, which is kinda wack, considering how easy it'd be to include such a feature.
What's the x axis here? The current value of what ever is being modulated?
Oh, i read this wrong. I could've been much more brief and said, simply, yes.

Re: Native Instruments Razor (new 'filth' plugin)

Posted: Tue Apr 26, 2011 11:23 pm
by ShadowMachine
Grime Syndicate wrote:Well, an LFO usually has the option to affect whatever it's modulating positively, negatively, or some combination of both. (I.E. making the cutoff on the filter go either up, down, or up and down.) THIS LFO, well, it only has one setting, modulating the source both positively and negatively equally.

Image

The blue portion is the positive bit, in the photo. Above the x axis, feel me?
why do you just move the waveform in the LFO? depending on its position, will affect the sound the way you are explaining it.... but hey I dont know anything appearently...

Re: Native Instruments Razor (new 'filth' plugin)

Posted: Sat May 28, 2011 3:16 am
by VirtualMark
So, are there any tunes using this synth yet? I'd be interested to hear what it can do! Any of you had any success with it? Or any pro tracks out there that use it?

Re: Native Instruments Razor (new 'filth' plugin)

Posted: Sat May 28, 2011 7:19 pm
by GRAYSKALE
VirtualMark wrote:So, are there any tunes using this synth yet? I'd be interested to hear what it can do! Any of you had any success with it? Or any pro tracks out there that use it?
I bought a copy, but I haven't actually put it in a full tune yet, it's a real CPU monster and I wouldn't say it stands up to massive tbh, really nice high freq's though, I intend to spend a day just resampling the shit out of it and will post the results when I do!! It says on the website that Boys Noise is using it, couldn't see what tunes, if any, he's using it on though!

Re: Native Instruments Razor (new 'filth' plugin)

Posted: Sat May 28, 2011 8:26 pm
by DRTY
Pretty much massive with some cool Visual screen for the basslines! Woohoo!

Re: Native Instruments Razor (new 'filth' plugin)

Posted: Sun May 29, 2011 12:43 am
by VirtualMark
I have a copy too, i'm just not very good at using it yet. Didn't seem to be a lot of options like there are in massive. In fact, i don't know why people keep comparing the two, they're completely different. I'd be interested to hear razor in a tune tho, as it has a pretty distinctive sound. It is a bitch on the cpu tho, i only have a dual core laptop, and when i bring in razor to a tune, i sometimes have to start bouncing everything else to free up cpu.

Re: Native Instruments Razor (new 'filth' plugin)

Posted: Sun May 29, 2011 1:11 am
by reignstep
You should remember that promo video's hardly cover any of the possibilities of a specific synth, certainly if it's NI. :) (Massive promo video wasn't that great, neither are the factory patches tbh, and yet it's a very good synth)

I'd like to test it whenever I see the opportunity though, it looks like fun.