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Re: Get Involved! (Phrases that need to die)

Posted: Wed Oct 12, 2011 1:24 pm
by therapist
noam wrote:
grillis wrote:"Same difference." because it doesn't make sense
two people want to arive at point B from point A

two routes A1 and A2

both routes are 3miles long

x wants to go A1 route, y wants to go A2 route

the difference in length between the two routes is.... the same

:Q:

''could care less'' is the american thing thats kinda the same as above but genuinely means the opposite of what they try to say
Yeah, but surely 'same difference' should then just be 'the same' or 'no difference'. In the example you gave, 'same difference' actually makes sense, but people usually use it to say something they mistakenly said is the same as what they meant to say.

Re: Get Involved! (Phrases that need to die)

Posted: Wed Oct 12, 2011 1:47 pm
by grillis
therapist wrote:
noam wrote:
grillis wrote:"Same difference." because it doesn't make sense
two people want to arive at point B from point A

two routes A1 and A2

both routes are 3miles long

x wants to go A1 route, y wants to go A2 route

the difference in length between the two routes is.... the same

:Q:

''could care less'' is the american thing thats kinda the same as above but genuinely means the opposite of what they try to say
Yeah, but surely 'same difference' should then just be 'the same' or 'no difference'. In the example you gave, 'same difference' actually makes sense, but people usually use it to say something they mistakenly said is the same as what they meant to say.
exactly- in this context, when there is a measurable difference, it makes sense. 'Same thing' sounds better and is foolproof..

that being said, thank you noam for providing a valid explanation for once, noone else has ever come close

Re: Get Involved! (Phrases that need to die)

Posted: Wed Oct 12, 2011 1:50 pm
by noam
therapist wrote:
noam wrote:
grillis wrote:"Same difference." because it doesn't make sense
two people want to arive at point B from point A

two routes A1 and A2

both routes are 3miles long

x wants to go A1 route, y wants to go A2 route

the difference in length between the two routes is.... the same

:Q:

''could care less'' is the american thing thats kinda the same as above but genuinely means the opposite of what they try to say
Yeah, but surely 'same difference' should then just be 'the same' or 'no difference'. In the example you gave, 'same difference' actually makes sense, but people usually use it to say something they mistakenly said is the same as what they meant to say.
whatever man, same difference...

Re: Get Involved! (Phrases that need to die)

Posted: Wed Oct 12, 2011 1:51 pm
by tyger
grillis wrote:"Same difference." because it doesn't make sense
that's the point ... when one says "X, Y, same difference", the use of the nonsensical term "same difference" makes the assertion that X and Y are the same into obvious nonsense, which makes the statement ironic, implying that X and Y are in fact different.

Re: Get Involved! (Phrases that need to die)

Posted: Wed Oct 12, 2011 2:59 pm
by skimpi
[quote="noam"]

the difference in length between the two routes is.... the same

how can the difference between two things be the same, there is only one difference, the difference between the two lengths is one value. or if you mean they are both the same length, then there is no difference in length, they are just both the same, no difference.

Re: Get Involved! (Phrases that need to die)

Posted: Wed Oct 12, 2011 3:29 pm
by noam
skimpi wrote:
noam wrote:
the difference in length between the two routes is.... the same

how can the difference between two things be the same, there is only one difference, the difference between the two lengths is one value. or if you mean they are both the same length, then there is no difference in length, they are just both the same, no difference.
scrap what i just said i just re-read your point and you're right :Q: :4:

Re: Get Involved! (Phrases that need to die)

Posted: Wed Oct 12, 2011 3:56 pm
by Duffman
If it wasn't for urban dictionary I wouldn't have a clue what any of you ones are on about.

I imagine you would all hate the word 'craic' if you came over to Ireland. It essentially means the same thing as banter and is overused so much, but I use it all the time so I can't complain. A few Norn Irish phrases and words that piss me off are Get her bucked, Pure beaut, Mankin, Melter, Yolk (meaning house) and Scundered. There are so many bloody awful sayings in these lands.

Re: Get Involved! (Phrases that need to die)

Posted: Wed Oct 12, 2011 4:04 pm
by noam
my geordie mate said 'craic' all the time and it annoyed me

Re: Get Involved! (Phrases that need to die)

Posted: Wed Oct 12, 2011 5:20 pm
by staticcast
people seem to have started saying "rapid" to mean "good" now. fuck that shit.

Re: Get Involved! (Phrases that need to die)

Posted: Wed Oct 12, 2011 11:39 pm
by grillis
tyger wrote:that's the point ... when one says "X, Y, same difference", the use of the nonsensical term "same difference" makes the assertion that X and Y are the same into obvious nonsense, which makes the statement ironic, implying that X and Y are in fact different.
nah mate whenever someone says 'same difference' to me they are implying that whatever is being compared has such a little difference that they can be considered as the 'same', not to be 'ironic', that's why they look stupid (also if someone was trying to be ironic they would still sound stupid)
skimpi wrote:how can the difference between two things be the same, there is only one difference, the difference between the two lengths is one value. or if you mean they are both the same length, then there is no difference in length, they are just both the same, no difference.
exactly.. noams example only seems to work in a very literal sense

Re: Get Involved! (Phrases that need to die)

Posted: Thu Oct 13, 2011 12:01 am
by Widowmaker
Refer to sig...

Re: Get Involved! (Phrases that need to die)

Posted: Thu Oct 13, 2011 12:34 am
by noam
static_cast wrote:people seem to have started saying "rapid" to mean "good" now. fuck that shit.
hahahaha someone said that to me the other day... think its Scottish slang

not namin names or anything... *COUGH* FERGUS *COUGH*

rapid aint so rapid

Re: Get Involved! (Phrases that need to die)

Posted: Thu Oct 13, 2011 12:52 am
by ruckus49
"LEGIT"

there are some people who abuse the hell out of that word

Re: Get Involved! (Phrases that need to die)

Posted: Thu Oct 13, 2011 1:04 am
by tyger
grillis wrote:
tyger wrote:that's the point ... when one says "X, Y, same difference", the use of the nonsensical term "same difference" makes the assertion that X and Y are the same into obvious nonsense, which makes the statement ironic, implying that X and Y are in fact different.
nah mate whenever someone says 'same difference' to me they are implying that whatever is being compared has such a little difference that they can be considered as the 'same', not to be 'ironic', that's why they look stupid (also if someone was trying to be ironic they would still sound stupid)
ok ... well, my explanation is the only reason i'd say "same difference" (& it is deliberately being silly); i can't speak for everybody ...

Re: Get Involved! (Phrases that need to die)

Posted: Thu Oct 13, 2011 1:28 am
by wobbles
ruckus49 wrote:"LEGIT"

there are some people who abuse the hell out of that word
:sofa:

Re: Get Involved! (Phrases that need to die)

Posted: Thu Oct 13, 2011 1:44 am
by therapist
I copped this, I copped that. That can fuck right off.

Re: Get Involved! (Phrases that need to die)

Posted: Thu Oct 13, 2011 2:01 am
by Siderealdb
Ya'll hang with too many roody-poos.

Re: Get Involved! (Phrases that need to die)

Posted: Thu Oct 13, 2011 3:08 am
by TMSV
Duffman wrote:Get her bucked, Pure beaut, Mankin, Melter, Yolk (meaning house) and Scundered.
amazing

Re: Get Involved! (Phrases that need to die)

Posted: Thu Oct 13, 2011 3:57 am
by budsteq
skimpi wrote:
noam wrote:
the difference in length between the two routes is.... the same

how can the difference between two things be the same, there is only one difference, the difference between the two lengths is one value. or if you mean they are both the same length, then there is no difference in length, they are just both the same, no difference.
if you have 2 grey rocks and 1 blue rock the 2 grey rocks have the same difference :mrgreen:

Re: Get Involved! (Phrases that need to die)

Posted: Thu Oct 13, 2011 4:06 am
by Siderealdb
All these bitches wanna lick my ice cream.