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Oh yeh and Old Apparatus- Compendium is up there aswell.

aspect-dubz wrote:

wub wrote:
Moderat - II

Awesome stuff, couple of dancefloor tracks, some vocal cuts, some downtempo. The 10min long techno workout 'Milk' is doing the business, as is the opening track 'Bad Kingdom', which also has an awesome video;



Proper hyped for seeing them in November

Still not sure on this album. don't think it quite match's the original album but i like that they are going in a different direction even if it is a tad cheesy.

I think I prefer it to their debut TBH, it's got a more definitive feel about it, as though they took the original and reworked it into a clearer sound. Agree on the cheesy side though, if only for the fact they've got a poppier feel to things.

aspect-dubz wrote:think jon hopkins immunity might be the one so far for me this year.

That's on the playlist for today after I've finished listening to Ikonika's new LP

wub wrote:
Moderat - II

Yes really good LP that showcases each of them individually, but at the same time a great collab. It just works so well. Love it.

aspect-dubz wrote:think jon hopkins immunity might be the one so far for me this year.

Oh wow

Yea that Jon Hopkins LP is great, pretty much everything he puts out is gold.

deadly habit wrote:Yea that Jon Hopkins LP is great, pretty much everything he puts out is gold.

There was a good article I posted in Production about his studio setup and use of found sounds in his productions - http://www.dubstepforum.com/viewtopic.p ... s#p3417465

Both him and Moderat are on the cards in November;

I put off listening to the Jon Hopkins album for so long, based on the fact that a lot of people on my facebook were recommending it (usually this is a warning sign). Checked out a few samples and was instantly blown away.

The opening and closing tracks are something else.

garethom wrote:I put off listening to the Jon Hopkins album for so long, based on the fact that a lot of people on my facebook were recommending it (usually this is a warning sign). Checked out a few samples and was instantly blown away.

The opening and closing tracks are something else.

His use of field recordings is next level. This is the slowed down firework sample from Abandon Window;

Soundcloud

Sick.

For what it's worth, here's my recommendations:

- Federsen - Voodoo Gourds: Dub-techno cassette. Deep.
- ASC - Time Heals All: Not sure why I'm recommending this, as the CD is sold out, and there's no digital. Will be looked upon as a classic ambient album
- Filter Dread - Space Loops: Bizarre, spaced out grime and jungle cassette.
- Kid Smpl - Skylight: Now! That's What I Call Night Bus
- Glossata - Pearls & Smoke: Ambient/techno album from the producer formerly known as Alteria Percepsyne
- Young Echo - Nexus: A collection of some of the best Bristol has to offer at the moment.
- Cass - Loops & Farewell Sketches: Ambient/found sounds.
- Keysound Presents - This Is How We Roll: The most exciting sounds in dubstep atm imo
- Jon Hopkins - Immunity: As described above.
- Various - Ferro #01: Deep, dubby dub-techno
- Sorrow - Dreamstone: The "Burial sound" with some of the rudest bass going.
- Various - Auxcast Volume One: Fans of autonomic dnb will dig this.

Honorable mention for this one that was released towards the tail end of 2012, but was rereleased in the UK this year:

- Die! Die! Die! - Harmony: Punk/Post-Punk/Shoegazer-y music from New Zealand band.

The stuff I've been enjoying:

Prurient - Through The Window
Ensemble Economique - Fever Logic
Jon Hopkins - Immunity (though I find it to be slightly overrated, it's still a very decent album in all aspects)
Mika Vainio - Kilo
Miles - Faint Hearted
oOoOO - Without Your Love
Still Corners - Strange Pleasures
SHXCXCHCXSH - STRGTHS
Snow Ghosts - A Small Murmuration
Zomby - With Love


Some other good but not great ones :
Benjamin Damage - Heliosphere
Cosmin TRG - Gordian
Djrum - Seven Lies
Femme En Fourrure - 36-26-36
Ikonika - Aerotropolis
Mount Kimbie - Blood & Form
Darkstar -

I really don't get limited cassettes

mIrReN wrote:I really don't get limited cassettes

What's not to get?

Cassette suits some sort of music (usually black metal, noise, power electronics)

yeah yeah I understand using cassettes I don't care about that it's more the limited that bugs me 90 or 100 of something that will sell out
"If you're too late well then fuck you you'll never get to hear it, don't have the money now? fuck you, can't buy online fuck you too"

mIrReN wrote:yeah yeah I understand using cassettes I don't care about that it's more the limited that bugs me
"If you're too late well then fuck you you'll never get to hear it"

Most of the cassette releases I have are on smaller labels. As someone who's currently putting out a cassette/cd release, I can offer an opinion, I hope.

1. Cassettes ain't all that easy to get hold of in large numbers.
2. We've bought a tape duplicator, but Night Tracks isn't a full time job for either of us, so we have limited time to put into the duplication.
3. The packaging (especially in our case) isn't something that can be quickly replicated, and it begins to get pretty expensive.
4. Cassettes, whilst making a bit of a comeback, are still an unknown quantity as to whether or not people will buy them. We've made 30 which I'm sure will fuck a few bods off, but we made that number because of reasons 1-3 and primarily because we're not sure people will even buy that many. We can't go out and make 100 tapes and then risk being left with 80 we can't move when we've paid for the whole release out of our own pockets and actually want to pass on some money to the artists.

Cassettes are no more limited than vinyl really, it's just that they tend to be done in smaller runs because there's less demand, I guess. Think it's easy to forget on a forum like this where people clamour for the tunes that if something sells out (which a lot of releases don't), it might seem to make sense to us to repress it (everybody on DSF wants one, so why not repress it?) but if they repress another 300 copies, and only sell 40/50 to the people that missed out last time, that could majorly fuck them over.

Trust me, I'd love to be able to put out 100 cassettes in this release, but with entirely hand-made packaging, inc. laser etched custom holders, cost of materials, time invested and the risk that we don't sell, it'd be impossible.

Oh didn't know cassettes were that expensive and time consuming.
I know there can be limited demand and they don't want to fuck themselves over but you also have tapes everybody knows will sell more then a 100 which is a shame imho.

It just seems odd you'd want to get your music out to the world and yet I can't find anything except a 5 minute excerpt (which sounded lovely) of it.
Understandable though if you don't know if you have the audience for it.
Didn't think this through it seems lol

Most cassettes I buy you get instant digital download as soon as you purchase.

mIrReN wrote: I know there can be limited demand and they don't want to fuck themselves over but you also have tapes everybody knows will sell more then a 100 which is a shame imho.

Oh yeah, guess THAT is annoying, just think a few people are too quick to accuse labels of being elitist, when sometimes it's limited out of necessity. Guess it always comes down to either time or money though. Do we have enough money to make 300 tapes rather than 100? If we're going to sell over 100, does that mean we'll sell 300 or 105 tapes? Do we have enough time to put together 300 tapes rather than 100?

wub wrote:Most cassettes I buy you get instant digital download as soon as you purchase.

If you buy from hipster labels where half the tapes are probably going to people who don't own a tape deck and only want them because tapes are cool

wolf89 wrote:

wub wrote:Most cassettes I buy you get instant digital download as soon as you purchase.

If you buy from hipster labels where half the tapes are probably going to people who don't own a tape deck and only want them because tapes are cool

Not really fair to say that, is it?