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Re: Drumstep and Liquid Drumstep
Posted: Wed Jun 30, 2010 5:56 pm
by fractal
god bless the little cotton socks of chico red, this guy's been giving us all some solid LOL's since the day he signed up...
as therapist pointed out, can't wait until they double time it and call it speed drums or something
you'd think if chico was really as old as some of us are on this forum that he would be sick of the endless renaming of the same sounds over and over again... *shrug
Re: Drumstep and Liquid Drumstep
Posted: Wed Jun 30, 2010 7:11 pm
by chico_red
executive steve wrote:This thread just beggars belief
For what it's worth - the term "Drumstep" seems to be exclusively used by the Jumpup / Wobble 'n Screech crew to describe the sort of halftime tunes they're starting to make, presumably because:
A: They've never heard of Amit
B: They've never heard any of the hundreds of halftime DnB tunes that people have been knocking out for years
C: They make music exclusively aimed at clueless teenagers and they want to get bookings at more mixed events where "Dubstep" (which in this particular case generally means "horrid screechy midrange mephedrone noise") is the only electronic music anyone attending has ever heard of.
Grooverider has been using the word on his radio show recently, I reckon "C" covers him. Crissy Criss and that shower are probably "A" "B" and "C" combined.
jeez... do you want ketchup or mayonnaise with that chip on your shoulder?
Re: Drumstep and Liquid Drumstep
Posted: Wed Jun 30, 2010 8:02 pm
by fluffy
jolly wailer wrote:so drumstep should be saved as the name for that very formulaic half step tearout dnb sound
tunes like heist - survivor and crissy cris - kick snare drumstep mix
cuz those tunes sounded the most alike out of what I listened to in this thread
like what was referred to as "purposely produced"
the other stuff like steptoe (big tune!) is kind of wot do you call it 2 me.. obv dnb but breaking from the formula
the drumstep chico red is advocating for seems very constricted in what it will sound like - which, fair play - some people will want, much like punters who hear 'dubstep' and think doctor p and not pinch
half time dnb drums with those busy snare ghost notes, some woi woi, reeeeeeeee, whompwhompwhomp
and around and round we go
I like some of the really hyper tracks and some of the chill ones too. Different moods, different parties, even different times at the same parties, most of it can fit somewhere. Never been a fan of dnb (except for these tracks which some of you def still consider dnb but whatever) and probably never will be, but something about the slower syncopation resonates with me and that difference is enough for me to consider this stuff to be.. different, yknow?
Notwithstanding, Ruckspin I checked out your halftime dnb mix there's some cool stuff on there, until the part comes where it goes double time and then you lost me
Re: Drumstep and Liquid Drumstep
Posted: Wed Jun 30, 2010 8:04 pm
by fluffy
oh also self plug there's some "drumstep" in the start of this mix (after the xx remix), of the crazy and subdued variety, with dare i say some grey area
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Re: Drumstep and Liquid Drumstep
Posted: Wed Jun 30, 2010 8:13 pm
by babylonburn
I nominate this thread as a new genre: dumbstep
Re: Drumstep and Liquid Drumstep
Posted: Thu Jul 01, 2010 11:56 am
by ruckspin
fluffy wrote:Ruckspin I checked out your halftime dnb mix there's some cool stuff on there, until the part comes where it goes double time and then you lost me
Are you sure you're listening to the right mix? The entire mix is of tunes with 1 snare per bar instead of 2. I would therefore say it's half-tempo. Might have some fast hi-hats, but the essence is the same.
Re: Drumstep and Liquid Drumstep
Posted: Thu Jul 01, 2010 5:03 pm
by jungletime21
in the words of charles barkley, "this is turr-ible." the only thing I know for sure is every one of mt eden's posts is useless and hilarious
Re: Drumstep and Liquid Drumstep
Posted: Thu Jul 01, 2010 5:40 pm
by executive steve
chico_red wrote:executive steve wrote:This thread just beggars belief
For what it's worth - the term "Drumstep" seems to be exclusively used by the Jumpup / Wobble 'n Screech crew to describe the sort of halftime tunes they're starting to make, presumably because:
A: They've never heard of Amit
B: They've never heard any of the hundreds of halftime DnB tunes that people have been knocking out for years
C: They make music exclusively aimed at clueless teenagers and they want to get bookings at more mixed events where "Dubstep" (which in this particular case generally means "horrid screechy midrange mephedrone noise") is the only electronic music anyone attending has ever heard of.
Grooverider has been using the word on his radio show recently, I reckon "C" covers him. Crissy Criss and that shower are probably "A" "B" and "C" combined.
jeez... do you want ketchup or mayonnaise with that chip on your shoulder?
Just telling it like it is kiddo...
Re: Drumstep and Liquid Drumstep
Posted: Thu Jul 01, 2010 6:04 pm
by mikey_g
Re: Drumstep and Liquid Drumstep
Posted: Thu Jul 01, 2010 7:11 pm
by Bledbox
Wow this guy made his own wikipedia page for 'Liquid Drumstep' claiming he 'founded' it
Re: Drumstep and Liquid Drumstep
Posted: Thu Jul 01, 2010 7:25 pm
by ST100
I read some of the first page, and I'm posting now.
it's dnb.
bottom line.
Re: Drumstep and Liquid Drumstep
Posted: Thu Jul 01, 2010 7:53 pm
by fractal
Re: Drumstep and Liquid Drumstep
Posted: Thu Jul 01, 2010 8:37 pm
by test_recordings
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drumstep wrote:It is proposed that this article be deleted because of the following concern:
Original research, not widely accepted or acknowledged, no references, no notability shown
well the guy who wrote it can't spell very so that can't have helped
Re: Drumstep and Liquid Drumstep
Posted: Thu Jul 01, 2010 9:07 pm
by Bledbox
I just don't get why this guy is claiming to have invented a sub-genre of a sub-genre of a sub-genre when the track he's posted isn't even halftime, which is what 'drumstep' is supposed to be... unless 'Liquid Drumstep' is just the new word for liquid dnb... Who know's maybe in 100 years somebody will look at that wiki page and go 'Aaaaah Jay Jenks... I'm glad he pioneered the movement of Liquid Drumstep'. Ive kind of forgotten where I'm going with this so..er yeh...
Re: Drumstep and Liquid Drumstep
Posted: Thu Jul 01, 2010 9:12 pm
by skimpi
fractal wrote:
YES!!!!
also
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drumstep
the annals of history will record Jay Jenkins as the founder of Liquid Drumstep, which will be bigger than scientology - one day
well if drumstep is half time DnB, then how can jay jenkins be the creator of liquid drumstep when his tune is not even half time.
i like how he said he founded it though, he will be the main influence for all the up and coming liquid drumstep producers! he is like the new skream!
Re: Drumstep and Liquid Drumstep
Posted: Thu Jul 01, 2010 9:25 pm
by test_recordings
A yogi once said to me "Where the attention goes the energy flows and that thing flows"... Basically the more attention you pay to something the greater it becomes. Every time you type 'drumst*p' go*ogle registers it's presence and uses to collate data which then bandied about and could be used to enhance the meaning of the term and solidifying it's position in dictionaries or colloquial (scene) use.. so if we all never talk about and just call it dnb it will stay that way as it still is technically covered by the genre category
Re: Drumstep and Liquid Drumstep
Posted: Thu Jul 01, 2010 9:33 pm
by chico_red
fractal wrote:mikey g wrote:
YES!!!!
also
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drumstep
the annals of history will record Jay Jenkins as the founder of Liquid Drumstep, which will be bigger than scientology - one day
ha... now this is too much. The tune he posted isn't even Drumstep.. liquid or not!!!
Re: Drumstep and Liquid Drumstep
Posted: Fri Jul 02, 2010 12:53 pm
by chico_red
New Drumstep release:
http://www.chemical-records.co.uk/sc/se ... ack=CHR002
Oh no, excuse me.. it's DnB isn't it.. hmm yes, sounds just like it!
Re: Drumstep and Liquid Drumstep
Posted: Fri Jul 02, 2010 1:35 pm
by CollisionCourse
what does it say next to genre you fucking tool?
Re: Drumstep and Liquid Drumstep
Posted: Fri Jul 02, 2010 2:30 pm
by g-man
that's one of the worst dnb releases ever
