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ChronicRecords wrote:

Ory wrote:

ChronicRecords wrote:Ive only been listening to dubstep for a few months now

then you shouldn't talk.

ya who the fuck do i think i am trying to learn and become more knowledgeable about a topic that interests me.

calm down there cupcake

it's only the internet...

DROKKR wrote:

ChronicRecords wrote:

Ory wrote:

ChronicRecords wrote:Ive only been listening to dubstep for a few months now

then you shouldn't talk.

ya who the fuck do i think i am trying to learn and become more knowledgeable about a topic that interests me.

calm down there cupcake

it's only the internet...

im calm, i was only sarcastically joking, is that not allowed here?

no

ChronicRecords wrote:im calm, i was only sarcastically joking, is that not allowed here?

WheelchairPrince wrote:no

It couldnt sound any more dubstep to me. Dark, south london sound, shuffley garage born rhythms around 140 bpmish with oodles of sub and clear influence from the UK rave dubstep precursors!

mattron wrote:

ChronicRecords wrote:they sound nothing like the majority of dubstep tunes.

so all dubstep should sound the same?

Not at all did he suggest or insinuate such, I understand what your question is asking and I believe its due to the 2step vibe it has. Also, the hyperdub connection, even if Hyperdub releases for the most part are not dubstep.
Same can be asked for alot of this "jump-up"/dancy " high energy dubstep being released these last couple years.

From what I know and according to wiki the halftime beat developed later on (2004/2005'ish?) the earlier stuff (1999/2000) was more like this, really dark and minimal, thats what dubstep was, dark, minimal garage. Then the half step thing kicked off, it lost a lot of the space and tracks became more dense, more producers came in to give their take on it and here we are in 2009 and I couldn't be happier with the way music is and has been.

You still get people who listen to a dubstep track and go "where the fucks the drop?" they associate dubstep with bass drops but there's more to this genre than a lot of people realize.

yes thats right

wasnt dubstep originally just sort of 2-step and jungle influenced dark side of garage?

i think thats what it is, heard people like skream and benga said so

tempo and sub are the only walls in this genre, and even those have begun to fade... dubstep is a pretty loose term

ChronicRecords wrote:Why is burial considered dubstep?

Well, to flip the question, he's probably not considered "dubstep" by some people because he doesn't sound like a lot of current dubstep. that's because he takes more inspiration from early dubstep, like Horsepower and El-B.

I think if I'd just heard dubstep in 2009 I'd ask the question too and then i'd hope someone referred me to Dubstep Allstars Vol 1, the Roots of Dubstep and the Roots of El-B compilations, Zed Bias' first two LPs, the first 10 Tempa 12"s and Big Apple records vol 1 ... and then Burial's music would make more sense.

ChronicRecords wrote:Is it because this is what early dubstep sounded like or something? Ive only been listening to dubstep for a few months now, and i do think most burial tunes are incredible, but cant see how they are labeled as dubstep. they sound nothing like the majority of dubstep tunes. Does he want his tunes labeled dubstep? seems more like downtempo or some shit

is this guy for real?

wibblewobble wrote:

ChronicRecords wrote:Is it because this is what early dubstep sounded like or something? Ive only been listening to dubstep for a few months now, and i do think most burial tunes are incredible, but cant see how they are labeled as dubstep. they sound nothing like the majority of dubstep tunes. Does he want his tunes labeled dubstep? seems more like downtempo or some shit

is this guy for real?

i know! he doesn't know as much about dubstep as you! TURBOL0Lz

the day Burial isn't considered Dubstep is the day I finally cut my ties from the scene...

^tut tut

seckle wrote:answers are here...
http://www.thewire.co.uk/articles/347/

wow, hadn't seen that
soulful

Fuck me, he only asked a question, he wasn't trolling, just inquisitive, how do we expect noobs to learn if the experienced arn't helpful in passing on the knowledge.

To the original poster -

Burial was definatly born from the dubstep movement, his audience however far surpasses this scene, which is why he is so successfull.

Dubstep is all encompassing (thank god) as remarked on earlier in this thread.

There arn't really any rules which is why I for one love it so much.

Joe C wrote:the day Burial isn't considered Dubstep is the day I finally cut my ties from the scene...

sounds like something blackdown would say

and how are you gunna go about 'cutting your ties'? stop listening to music you don't like ?

i do that anyway

freqone wrote:Also, the hyperdub connection, even if Hyperdub releases for the most part are not dubstep.

see I have a problem with this sentiment, because I've seen it elsewhere...

when you start disconnecting/disassociating the hyperdub stuff out away from the dubstep umbrella then you begin to minimize the potential for a recognition of variety in this sound and start making questions like "how is burial even considered dubstep?" sound more logical


all the sounds out there fit into the puzzle somehow!! what happened to embracing the wild styles?

berryal is budstep cuz he is a proper bad man

subindex wrote:berryal is budstep cuz he is a proper bad man

qft. there was a time when that would have been a good enough reason... there was a time...