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Re: the Black Metal appreciation thread

Posted: Mon Dec 07, 2009 12:27 pm
by stapleface
one word.


BURZUM

so what if he's a psychotic axe murdering church burning weirdo. His escape attempt was documented on youtube and it's hilarious;

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RdJuu-krcrY

possibly the least effective slow mo i've ever seen
sorry it's in norwegian though

Re: the Black Metal appreciation thread

Posted: Mon Dec 07, 2009 1:59 pm
by tomm
kingldub wrote:Now when it comes to Death Metal I just can't stand this whole 'Gore Metal' shit. If you're into then it's all good but there's only so many songs about being raped by zombies and coat hanger abortions that you can hear.
aye, i'm not really into that shite either. death/grind, goregrind, brutal death metal etc just isn't my thing.

this, however:



:twisted:

Re: the Black Metal appreciation thread

Posted: Tue Dec 08, 2009 3:07 am
by deepfiend
If you listen to Black Metal, but you don't know what phase the moon is in, or what wild flowers are blooming then you have failed. It is shocking to me that one could be seriously interested in Black Metal and not be deeply committed to radical ecology. Is Black Metal supposed to be about concrete high rises, suburbs, television, an easy modern existence with access to 4-tracks and corpse paint from the local hot topic? No! The music is about wild forests, unfettered rivers, nature: furious and vengeful. Frankly, I think a good portion of Black Metallers haven't thought too hard about why they are into the music. I remember reading an interview with Garm of Ulver, I think in Michael Moynihan's "Lords of Chaos". Garm just couldn't say enough horrible things about the youthful malcontents who buy the majority of Black Metal records; I tend to agree with him. Black Metal is a fairly easy thing to get into. There is a style, a sound, a set of beliefs - it's all there to be purchased or downloaded with nary a thought of one's own needed to get the whole package. There is deep truth underneath the façade of grim posturing, but one needs to search for it.

Re: the Black Metal appreciation thread

Posted: Tue Dec 08, 2009 8:25 am
by capo ultra
Black Metal increasingly can fit the urban setting very nicely actually.

The most effective BM is that which doesn't explicitly have an agenda though.

I hate all these namby pamby eco-warrior black metal bands like fauna and witr and such

Drudkh are a great eco band that don't preach, just let the music do the talking

Re: the Black Metal appreciation thread

Posted: Tue Dec 08, 2009 4:13 pm
by tomm
some replies in here are clearly straight from soulseek +bm+ chat circa 2004 haha

Re: the Black Metal appreciation thread

Posted: Tue Dec 08, 2009 4:51 pm
by capo ultra
tomm wrote:some replies is here are clearly straight from soulseek +bm+ chat circa 2004 haha
it's all about soulseek chat circa 2004 :D DER KVLT!!!

Re: the Black Metal appreciation thread

Posted: Tue Dec 08, 2009 5:09 pm
by tomm
>:[

Re: the Black Metal appreciation thread

Posted: Wed Dec 09, 2009 10:24 pm
by saxenhammer
Soulseek black metal chat is awesome.

Re: the Black Metal appreciation thread

Posted: Wed Dec 09, 2009 10:46 pm
by planetshift
How ironic I find this thread today. I just experimented with some Two Step blastbeats, as well as using Darkthrone and Necrophagist samples in dubstep. I didn't finish the songs but I got two "sketches" done just so I had the idea in my head "on paper." That's why u may recognize the normal dubstep drum beats are pre-made. If I spent the time meddling with the drums (which is normally a full day) I would have forgotten the "soundfile" playing in my head, and I really was more concerned in getting the bas(s)ics down.

Darkthrone
Soundcloud

Necrophagist
Soundcloud

Re: the Black Metal appreciation thread

Posted: Wed Dec 09, 2009 10:57 pm
by planetshift
capo ultra wrote:
tomm wrote:some replies is here are clearly straight from soulseek +bm+ chat circa 2004 haha
it's all about soulseek chat circa 2004 :D DER KVLT!!!

2004 I was rockin' DC++, straight up leeching entire 10 GB folders of kvlt bm \m/

Re: the Black Metal appreciation thread

Posted: Thu Dec 10, 2009 4:20 am
by kentnz
planetshift wrote:How ironic I find this thread today. I just experimented with some Two Step blastbeats, as well as using Darkthrone and Necrophagist samples in dubstep. I didn't finish the songs but I got two "sketches" done just so I had the idea in my head "on paper." That's why u may recognize the normal dubstep drum beats are pre-made. If I spent the time meddling with the drums (which is normally a full day) I would have forgotten the "soundfile" playing in my head, and I really was more concerned in getting the bas(s)ics down.

Darkthrone
Soundcloud

Necrophagist
Soundcloud
Nice

Re: the Black Metal appreciation thread

Posted: Thu Dec 10, 2009 2:52 pm
by capo ultra
Although Darkthrone are obviously the better band I prefer the Necrophagist tune, good work so far!

Re: the Black Metal appreciation thread

Posted: Thu Dec 10, 2009 4:11 pm
by tomm
we really need a metal remixes thread!

Re: the Black Metal appreciation thread

Posted: Thu Dec 10, 2009 5:38 pm
by planetshift
Thx guys. Yeh, I like Darkthrone better than Necrophagist as well, and picked the latter more or less because I like their guitar production and they have so many "stealable" moments in songs. I think Death Metal musical approach works better for Dubstep since the breakdown is easily translated. Darkthrone blackmetal has so much minimalism and trance-like percussive repetition it's made more for shamanic tripping than dancefloor ripping.

Maybe a better approach to that minimal blackmetalstep sound would be closer to Skreams "Trapped in a Dark Bubble." I always thought it was funny that he stated hating BM in an interview, the first Dubstep track I heard was Midnite Req Line, and the flute arp reminded me of old Blackmetal records I used to like - not to mention his stark, foresty album art. Maybe he was being ironic 8)

I'd argue that people are liking the Necrophagist one more cos it has punchier mixing and better structure at the moment. Darkthrone one was more or less rushed cos I was paranoid I'd forget what the two-step blastbeat sounded like to me in my head. :lol:

Re: the Black Metal appreciation thread

Posted: Thu Dec 17, 2009 2:12 pm
by tomm
it's just started snowing here so i put on Filosofem. grym >:[

Re: the Black Metal appreciation thread

Posted: Thu Dec 17, 2009 3:32 pm
by tomm
the Mortifera LP is one of the finest Black Metal records of the decade.

Re: the Black Metal appreciation thread

Posted: Tue Dec 22, 2009 10:59 pm
by lastlight
if you like black metal but don't like all the satanist/izan/racist shit i would check out wolves in the throne room.

Re: the Black Metal appreciation thread

Posted: Wed Dec 23, 2009 11:45 am
by nicenice
Oh shit, never thought I would hear people talk about black metal here. Always thought the scene was too kvlt to look into other genres other then maybe death or grind. Still, I can't say I'm not partial to some once in a while. Last band I actually saw live was Dead Congregation, who put on the best show I've seen all year. Stopped listening to it for the moment though, concentrating on dubstep atm. I find that both genres are on opposite sides of the spectrum, black metal is more organic and nature focused whilst dubstep is more urban landscapes and conrete jungles. Always wanted to incorporate black metal into dubstep though, maybe have tremolo lfo? The grim & frostbitten urban jungle of decay.

Re: the Black Metal appreciation thread

Posted: Thu Dec 24, 2009 11:31 pm
by capo ultra
lastlight wrote:if you pretend you like black metal but actaully like post rock i would check out wolves in the throne room.
fixed

Re: the Black Metal appreciation thread

Posted: Fri Dec 25, 2009 11:11 am
by nicenice
lolololol, still, i've found even the most trve fans can appreciate wittr. Hey atleast it beats this